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01-28-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
I think many will continue to be deported but Trump will get his wall by giving them a path. Most wont follow the path and ten years from now, if we can keep Dems from taking over, then deportations will be a problem. If Dems take over, instant amnesty
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But why didn't the Democrats give amnesty back when they had Obama and control of congress, with a filibuster proof Senate? The Democrats could have done whatever they pleased, including a 15 dollar minimum wage.
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01-28-2018, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by zico20
But why didn't the Democrats give amnesty back when they had Obama and control of congress, with a filibuster proof Senate? The Democrats could have done whatever they pleased, including a 15 dollar minimum wage.
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The Democrats had a supermajority (filibuster proof) in the Senate for only 60 working days, many of those spent in special sessions to pass ObamaCare and to pass a budget. ObamaCare was a hard sell for a lot of Dems, many of whom had to be threatened and/or bribed to vote for it. Getting the bill done in that time frame was a super rush job for Congress, and a lot of stuff the leadership wanted didn't get done because they were working under a short deadline.
http://factleft.com/2012/01/31/the-m...uper-majority/
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01-28-2018, 09:16 PM
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One of us must be wrong.....
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01-28-2018, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
One of us must be wrong.....
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Put down the Kool Aid and look at reality. Do you really think that Trump will deport the Dreamers? He has already increased the number from 800K to 1.8 million just in negotiations with himself.
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01-28-2018, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
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Yes, because a secure border is SOOOO wrong.
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01-29-2018, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Yes, because a secure border is SOOOO wrong.
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Exactly! White Supremacy and all that rot...
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01-29-2018, 11:51 AM
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Due you really believe that NONE of the DACA eligible have no criminal record?
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01-29-2018, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You’re upset he was fingerprinted?
Every person that joins the military has their prints on file? Every teacher, day care worker, and most government jobs. School bus drivers too.......it’s nothing
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Or to interject horse racing in, licensed owners must have their fingerprints on file.
Mine are on file. went down to the local Police station, got fingerprinted.
not a biggie.
Of course I am not a criminal.....
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01-29-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by delayjf
Due you really believe that NONE of the DACA eligible have no criminal record?
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statement on the DACA form.
"Has not been convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, or three or more misdemeanors, and does not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety."
so one hundred percent of DACA people are not criminals.
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01-29-2018, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
statement on the DACA form.
"Has not been convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor, or three or more misdemeanors, and does not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety."
so one hundred percent of DACA people are not criminals.
Allan
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Of course not! They're all squeaky clean...except for those aren't.
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01-29-2018, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Of course not! They're all squeaky clean...except for those aren't.
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Those that are criminals are not DACA eligible.
Like entering a 4 year old into a 3 year old race.
Racing sec will toss that entry licketty split.
Only non criminals need apply.
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01-29-2018, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Those that are criminals are not DACA eligible.
Like entering a 4 year old into a 3 year old race.
Racing sec will toss that entry licketty split.
Only non criminals need apply.
Allan
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I'll believe that when I see it.
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01-29-2018, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
Those that are criminals are not DACA eligible.
Like entering a 4 year old into a 3 year old race.
Racing sec will toss that entry licketty split.
Only non criminals need apply.
Allan
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If they entered the country illegally, does that mean they still aren't criminals. Regardless if they have been here 1 day or 20 years, haven't they still broken the law? I know their parents supposedly brought them but I still can't get my head around how the law is not broken.
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01-29-2018, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jocko699
If they entered the country illegally, does that mean they still aren't criminals. Regardless if they have been here 1 day or 20 years, haven't they still broken the law? I know their parents supposedly brought them but I still can't get my head around how the law is not broken.
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It's about them, not their parents.
If they have criminal history before their next application,
it's a game changer.
Try to follow along........
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Want to know what's wrong with this country?
Here it is, in a nutshell: Millions of people are
pinning their hopes on a man who has every
chance of returning to the WH, assuming that
he can manage to stay out of prison. Think about it.
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01-29-2018, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horses4courses
It's about them, not their parents.
If they have criminal history before their next application,
it's a game changer.
Try to follow along........
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Thank you for your kind response. Now GFY!. You try to follow along, are they still illegally here therefore breaking the law? Yes or no.
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