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02-01-2018, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Trump seems to hold some (delusions?) hope that the US and Russia will achieve great things together down the line...I mean, he freakin' campaigned on this pretty hard.
This is one obvious reason he might be holding back now...
Why did he sign the law then? Stupid advisors pressing him at the time because the Russia thing was blowing up all around him?
Who the hell knows.
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Dan Pena start at 11.o in the video, details exactly why, answers questions about the market, and who will give a shit about anything.
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02-01-2018, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Trump seems to hold some (delusions?) hope that the US and Russia will achieve great things together down the line...I mean, he freakin' campaigned on this pretty hard.
This is one obvious reason he might be holding back now...
Why did he sign the law then? Stupid advisors pressing him at the time because the Russia thing was blowing up all around him?
Who the hell knows.
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They are delusions and when its come to this country he is an idiot.
Russia is a country that is actively seeking proxy war with the United States. They have been for 4 years now.
Isolate and contain worked for 50 years why change paths now? When did appeasement become the foreign policy stature of America when it comes to our rivals?
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02-01-2018, 10:37 AM
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When did appeasement become the foreign policy stature of America when it comes to our rivals?
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0bama?
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02-01-2018, 10:40 AM
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Obama did not appease the Russians.
Quite contrary he was actively pressing back at them.
His failure was creating vacuums in places like Syria saying one thing and doing another.
I would take the Obama posture towards Russia in a New York Minute over Trumps. Fortunately virtually everyone disagrees with President. The R's, the D's, his cabinet, his VP, the joint chiefs.... everyone.
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02-01-2018, 11:12 AM
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What a shame putting terrorists back in gitmo, he could use them to trade for deserters or let them loose for good behavior.
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02-01-2018, 11:20 AM
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What a shame putting terrorists back in gitmo, he could use them to trade for deserters or let them loose for good behavior.
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If for one moment you think that Gitmo will be the Hilton Garden Inn, you don't know the POTUS. I would think it is going to be the Trump Horror Hotel where the Alfred Hitchcock fans would be pleased with the amenities!
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02-01-2018, 02:56 PM
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Sounds about right.
I heard that no one, under any circumstances, will ever get more than one scoop of ice cream!
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02-01-2018, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
They are delusions and when its come to this country he is an idiot.
Russia is a country that is actively seeking proxy war with the United States. They have been for 4 years now.
Isolate and contain worked for 50 years why change paths now? When did appeasement become the foreign policy stature of America when it comes to our rivals?
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Is that why Obama wanted to wait until after the 2012 elections to make a nuke deal with the Ruskies? You do remember that, right?
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02-01-2018, 03:49 PM
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Is that why Obama wanted to wait until after the 2012 elections to make a nuke deal with the Ruskies? You do remember that, right?
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Yes, of course. He was up close and personal with Vlad - not like the current president. 
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02-01-2018, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Is that why Obama wanted to wait until after the 2012 elections to make a nuke deal with the Ruskies? You do remember that, right?
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Of course I remember New Start.
That was a good deal. Strategic arms reduction is of greater value to the United States than it is to Russia as we don't have the aging equipment and weaker C&C that they have.
That's not appeasement but thanks for playing.
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02-01-2018, 04:01 PM
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Micky Mouse could have done a better job at foreign policy than Obama/Hillary/Kerry did. Under performance from a bunch of socialists. 
The moral of that story is never trust a socialist opinion for foreign policy.
Addendum: You know who you are in this thread.
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02-01-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Micky Mouse could have done a better job at foreign policy than Obama/Hillary/Kerry did. Under performance from a bunch of socialists.
The moral of that story is never trust a socialist opinion for foreign policy.
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I don't disagree with anything you said...
Bigger problem though is those socialists were more right on Russia than the current President. This is evidenced by the fact nobody agrees with Trump's ideas of handling Russia including but not limited to his own VP and Cabinet.
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02-02-2018, 12:33 AM
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02-02-2018, 10:03 AM
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Was there point there?
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02-02-2018, 10:05 AM
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How can we tolerate an obviously racist group such as this to exist?
Especially when their IQs seem to be on the low side. Attention spans of idiots.
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