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09-13-2011, 08:39 PM
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Good luck to you Barry. Hope you stay in good health!! You may have more time to post on here now.
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09-13-2011, 11:34 PM
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A true professional with a broad resume as a thoroughbred and harness handicapper with good literary and money management skills to boot. Read a lot of your newsletters, articles and books.
The best to you, and appreciate all your contributions. Hope your health improves.
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09-14-2011, 01:47 AM
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Good luck to you Barry. Your health comes first! You are doing the right thing.
Jim
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09-14-2011, 02:57 AM
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thank you barry.....
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09-14-2011, 05:46 AM
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A Second Thought ? Barry ?
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Originally Posted by dinque
thank you barry.....
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I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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09-14-2011, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jamey1977
I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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Sometimes your body just can't handle the stress. This is like a pro athlete not being able to play the sport he loves because his body failed him. Elite horse players are SO hard on themselves because perfection is a must, its very easy to beat yourself up over small mistakes and stress yourself out.
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09-14-2011, 07:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamey1977
I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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Try playing full time once, you'll know why.
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09-14-2011, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamey1977
I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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Given Barry's circumstances, fortunately your selfishness and lack of personal respect do not factor into what is best for Mr. Meadow.
Contrary to your view, this situation is NOT about YOU and what is best for YOU.
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09-14-2011, 09:40 AM
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Thank you for inspiring me for 20 years Barry.
I'm looking forward to the publication of The Skeptical Handicapper.
JJ
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09-14-2011, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamey1977
Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too.
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Does anyone know what Quinn is doing these days?
I haven't seen any articles or heard anything about him in about two years.
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09-14-2011, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamey1977
I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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Jamey, the idea of you telling Barry Meadow what he should be doing is, at best, ludicrous.
Thanks to Barry for all his hard work for horseplayers over the years. My best to you in retirement.
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09-14-2011, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamey1977
I still want to read all of the works. Now why is this. ? The game is as stressful as hell? Why doesn't Barry attempt to do what Jim Quinn was doing for years on the Santa Anita Circuit- Playing one of the Top 3 Picks to win. Much easier on the heart. You have a hit rate. Perspiring over a 14 to 1 is as nerve wracking as hell. Jim Quinn was getting 35 percent winners at 7 dollars average. But Jim has since stopped doing that too. Why is everyone stopping ? Has the work not been proven? The methods we have all worked on are still valid and so are Barry's - Barry said his overlays guarantee a 7 to 10 percent profit. I believe that is still valid. Now has there been long losing streaks? How about maintaining the method and seeing why these losing streaks occurred ? . A few D.Q rules can make everything valid again. Jim Quinn was also betting with very few D.Q rules. Maybe 5, no wonder there were so many losses. My only complaint is, if you see why these losing streaks occur maybe something can be done about it. What gets me is why are all of these intelligent sharp horseplayers and lecturers and writers quitting the game ? Or at least quitting puting money down. Even Dick Mitchell quit at the end. All of us who want to make a living or dream of making a living at this game are left out to dry. Sets a very bad example. Don't Quit
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Hi Jamey...
If I am not mistaken...you had mentioned in an old post of yours that you had sold a couple of screenplays to Hollywood movie makers.
Were they comedies?
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09-14-2011, 02:11 PM
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Barry,
Best wishes my friend. Here's hoping you and your wife can now thoroughly enjoy that long and very much deserved happy retirement.
-jp
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09-14-2011, 04:07 PM
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ha ha ah ah ah
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Jamey, the idea of you telling Barry Meadow what he should be doing is, at best, ludicrous.
Thanks to Barry for all his hard work for horseplayers over the years. My best to you in retirement.
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Will say anything. Come back Barry, we need you. LOL
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09-14-2011, 05:12 PM
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Stress??
I played full time for a little over a year. Yes, it's stressful. But if I was able to keep winning I'd still be doing it. He is obviously not winning . I no longer play the game myself. I guess you can call it retirement, but I'm just as comfortable saying I quit.
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