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04-24-2014, 05:26 PM
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Is marijuana worse than alcohol?
Just curious as many are arguing on both sides for marijuana. But is it really a gateway drug? Can't the same 'against arguments' be used about alcohol? I have known many people die as a result of alcolhol and frequently it was not an alcohol user that died. Or even prescribed opiate drugs - which frequently become addictive and abused.
Can the argument be expanded to nicotine and cigarettes and cigars?
Then how about caffeine and coffee, stimulus sports drinks .....
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04-24-2014, 05:31 PM
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My initiation into "trying things" as a teenager went in this order:
Weed
Cigarettes (to cover up the weed smell)
Alcohol
I think they are all possible gateway drugs to the harder stuff, depending on who is using them.
I also believe that mariganja and alcohol are harmless in the long term if used in moderation.
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04-24-2014, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
Just curious as many are arguing on both sides for marijuana. But is it really a gateway drug?
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Anything can be a gateway to anything else if you have a addictive personality or if you hang out with gateway people.
Marijuana is physically non-addictive. Nicotine is more addictive and less healthy.
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04-24-2014, 06:15 PM
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The gateway argument is complete BS. What they leave out is the percentage of people who smoke pot and DON'T go on to hard drugs.
That said. I used to smoke weed, and, while it didn't really change my life dramatically for the worse, it didn't do me any good,and, I don't miss it.
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04-24-2014, 06:25 PM
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It is my firm belief that a person cannot easily cope with more than one major vice at a time.
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04-24-2014, 06:41 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Pot is a vice?
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04-24-2014, 07:49 PM
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I had a lot of "close calls" thanks to pot. At that point in time we were not "family orientated".
I think there is a lot of people who are sadly misinformed. There was a study done back in the early 70"s that concluded that pot could cause genetic mutations.
With the feelings people have toward abortions I really think there should be a definitive study. I am not sold that it will do good for everyone.
Pot is like a good bourbon. Stay home watch a movie, sip your bourbon and hit the rack. Abuse it......well.
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Have you ever noticed that those who do not have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of always seem to know how to handle the money of those who do.
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04-24-2014, 08:29 PM
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Is it worse than alcohol?
Depends on whether you're asking your lungs or your liver........
Alcoholism, is damn sure worse than being a stoner........having dealt with both many times
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04-27-2014, 01:19 PM
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I think that's the wrong argument. It doesn't make a difference if Marijuana is worse than alcohol or not. Both are bad. So do we really want to legalize another bad drug? I don't that's for sure.
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04-27-2014, 01:25 PM
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So do we really want to legalize another bad drug? I don't that's for sure.
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You mean like most of the stuff that Big Pharma puts out? The side effects of some of that stuff is worse than the original ailment.
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04-27-2014, 01:31 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Ever listen to those commercials?
They had on drug that for nausea.
One of the side effects was nausea!
Another one listed a side effect as fatal! 
Sorry, but DEATH is NOT a side effect!
Good news, his headache is gone.
Bad news is he's dead!
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04-27-2014, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Ever listen to those commercials?
They had on drug that for nausea.
One of the side effects was nausea!
Another one listed a side effect as fatal!
Sorry, but DEATH is NOT a side effect!
Good news, his headache is gone.
Bad news is he's dead! |
No brains - no headache!
Big pharma has succeeded in turning America into a bunch of zombied out pillheads.
Get them on drugs when they are children and you have a lifelong addict, errrrrrrr, client.
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04-27-2014, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by headhawg
You mean like most of the stuff that Big Pharma puts out? The side effects of some of that stuff is worse than the original ailment.
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I agree, but that is not an argument to legalize another mind altering drug!
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04-27-2014, 04:17 PM
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Pot use was rampant at the college that I went to in southern California in the early '70's. I saw some pretty smart guys wind up a mental step or more slow by the end of their college career (four years or earlier). I don't know if they were abusing other substances, as well, and other vices besides pot (such as alcohol) might have had the same long-term effect, but my experience (as just an observer, not a user) was enough to make me a lifetime abstainer.
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04-27-2014, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
Just curious as many are arguing on both sides for marijuana. But is it really a gateway drug? Can't the same 'against arguments' be used about alcohol? I have known many people die as a result of alcolhol and frequently it was not an alcohol user that died. Or even prescribed opiate drugs - which frequently become addictive and abused.
Can the argument be expanded to nicotine and cigarettes and cigars?
Then how about caffeine and coffee, stimulus sports drinks .....
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When you say worse, do you mean for the person, or do you mean that person's use on other people in society?
For me personally, i don't use alcohol, Pot or anything else (i have very few brain cells left, i need to preserve the ones i have lol)
I would rather have people use alcohol, because i don't smell "second hand alcohol" so, their use of it doesn't bother me in the least.
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