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12-10-2011, 10:42 PM
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clean money
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Location: Maryland
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the natural? ryan braun
guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh
guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)
but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...
90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.
Braun is surprising.
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Last edited by Robert Fischer; 12-10-2011 at 10:45 PM.
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12-10-2011, 10:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: On The Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh
guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)
but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...
90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.
Braun is surprising.
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Proof please
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12-11-2011, 10:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NE Ohio
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I have been a Brewers season ticket holder the past two years and was planning on renewing. Now, with a 50 game suspension for the NL MVP in the offing, I may very well reconsider.
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12-11-2011, 11:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: melbourne fl
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Anyone who thinks Tim Tebow cheats at anything is fooling themselves...I would like to believe there are some "honest" players...
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12-11-2011, 06:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh
guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)
but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...
90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.
Braun is surprising.
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Full of speculation vs evidence of proof here. To each his own.....
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12-11-2011, 11:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 16,487
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
guys like pujols, tebow etc.. are easy to see they use a lot of hgh
guys like derek rose, dwight howard etc.. are easy to see they are using peds... lebron shows lots of signs, wade has the look of a moderate image (unfair but i'm using stars among the more obvious rather than name off lesser knowns)
but Braun is a surprise because while he isn't skiny, he isn't swolen up beyond the frame a guy who just works fairly hard could achieve and he is such a fluid "natural" ballplayer...
90% will experiment with steroids, or hgh , or peds at some point from HS-College-Pros, but you like to think most grow out of that or relegate it to cycles during training.
Braun is surprising.
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Derek Rose? What would make you think he's juicing? He's a point guard. Howard is one thing; he needs power.
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02-23-2012, 07:35 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,639
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Classic Braun wins appeal(BUD) former owner of Brewers gets a passed.
Braun suspension gets cuts down to zero,Manny cuts down from 100 to 50.MLB is the best.
Last edited by Casino; 02-23-2012 at 07:37 PM.
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