Belmont Park is adding a synthetic track for 2024 meet

[the little guy]

The conversation was about one turn routes vs two turn routes. My point was there would only be maybe three races a week affected by this...and, as usual, people were making way too big a deal about it.

Is it really that hard to follow along?

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by the little guy

The conversation was about one turn routes vs two turn routes. My point was there would only be maybe three races a week affected by this...and, as usual, people were making way too big a deal about it.

Is it really that hard to follow along?

Got you.

I don't think it's a big deal for gamblers. Belmont is Belmont. I guess some people are going to miss Aqueduct. I have some great memories about AQU, but none of them recent.

[Tom]

Well. it is three races a week because they got rid of the inner dirt track.

They wanted more turf so the winter meet was sacrificed in terms od route races.

[Publius]

Work is being done at Belmont Park.

[groupie doll]

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...t-construction

I'm excited. Can't wait to see what the completed changes look like in a couple of years or so... also grateful that I was able to visit AQ twice over the years when in NY since it'll be gone pretty soon...

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by $w1fT

Do horseplayers want this and will be eager to bet it? None that I talk to.

Have the NY horseman been clamoring for this? I genuinely don’t know the answer to this. I know the Kentucky horsemen will keep their horses at Turfway for the winter and i still see the top NY turf trainers shipping their horses to FLA for the winter.

Do the politicians and activists insist on a synthetic surface? I’m sure they did although I can’t confirm.

Will NYRA will go the way of gulfstream and say they’ll only card these races in the spring/fall in off the turf scenarios and then reverse course? We’ll see.

yet handle was way up at the recently concluded all synthetic turfway meet.

someone is betting the product.

Allan

[$w1fT]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

yet handle was way up at the recently concluded all synthetic turfway meet.

someone is betting the product.

Allan

If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by $w1fT

If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…

Turfway running a 10 horse field with several pace elements and a Belmont race with 6 horses including an uncoupled entry and between the short field and the closely knit colony, can get some frustrating pace models&results.

It's tough to get the significant flawed favorite with a keyable non-favorite, & w/ enough models moving in your direction at Turfway,

but in Belmont's synth races it's easier to see the right moving parts, but I have to wait a while for the prices to fit.

I don't like how Toyota Camry brought out a new model back in 2025.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

I don't like how Toyota Camry brought out a new model back in 2025.

I always knew you were a time travelling Space Cadet....

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by $w1fT

If you can’t understand the difference between the Turfway product and the future Belmont product with synthetic than I won’t argue with you…

bettors will not be fearful of betting belmont synthetic racing is my prediction.

Allan

[therussmeister]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

bettors will not be fearful of betting belmont synthetic racing is my prediction.

Allan

You have a strong bias towards synthetic surfaces, which you likely fail to account for when making such predictions. So, if I paid attention to any such predictions, and I don't, it wouldn't be yours.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by therussmeister

You have a strong bias towards synthetic surfaces, which you likely fail to account for when making such predictions. So, if I paid attention to any such predictions, and I don't, it wouldn't be yours.

did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.

its only losing handicappers who dont like synthetics, my advice is dont bet if you dont like a surface.

hows that dirt racing in california doing since the switch back to dirt.

unbetable 5 horse fields.

synthetic in new york will do wonder for field sizes in off the turfers.

Allan

[cj]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.


Allan

It hasn't been pretty numbers wise.

[Cholly]

Is Churchill planning to have turf races in their upcoming Spring Meet? Or does the new grass need ANOTHER six months to settle in?

Seeing the condition of the Churchill & Fair Grounds turf courses recently, maybe CDI should rip both of them up and replace with Tapeta.

[Profesor]

[QUOTE=biggestal99;2868655]

did people stop betting in florida when they constructed synthetics.


Yes they did, handle was down more than 25% during their 2021-2022 ChampionshiT meet, don’t have the figures for 2022-2023 but it’s probably down a lot from what they handled pretapita .