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09-26-2020, 10:33 PM
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Are you math-challenged? Far, far more people survive covid than succumb to it. Fact!
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The same goes for war. Far more young men who were shipped to Viet Nam came home alive than came home in body bags.
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09-26-2020, 10:37 PM
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He thinks evil spirits not microscopic organisms are at play.
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He thinks disease is caused by sin. He's said as much.
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09-26-2020, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Are you math-challenged? Far, far more people survive covid than succumb to it. Fact!
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Why do they survive? Because of medical science. Fact!
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09-27-2020, 05:36 AM
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He thinks disease is caused by sin. He's said as much.
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His ridiculous website agrees.Their non-peer-reviewed "paper" I quoted was written by the equivalent of voodoo practitioners pretending to be brain surgeons. It appears boxcar was among their first patients
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09-27-2020, 06:31 AM
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Are you math-challenged? Far, far more people survive covid than succumb to it. Fact!
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The survival rates of car accidents is way more than deaths
There were 33,654 fatal motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2018 in which 36,560 deaths occurred. This resulted in 11.2 deaths per 100,000 people and 1.13 deaths per 100 million miles traveled.
Far more people survive car accidents than succumb...
11.2/100,000 is 0.011% or 99.989% survive. Should airbags, seat belts drivers ed, insurance, drivers licenses be discontinued and drunk driving be made legal?
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09-27-2020, 06:37 AM
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Why do they survive? Because of medical science. Fact!
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Yes, including the wonder drug HCQ!
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09-27-2020, 06:44 AM
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Why do persist with your stupid analogies? Haven't you learned by now, you're not mentally equipped to provide a sound analogy?
How many total car accidents were there?
And your equally stupid questions above don't take into account injuries and property damage.
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09-27-2020, 06:46 AM
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The same goes for war. Far more young men who were shipped to Viet Nam came home alive than came home in body bags.
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And so...? Is there a point in there somewhere?
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09-27-2020, 07:11 AM
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Why do persist with your stupid analogies? Haven't you learned by now, you're not mentally equipped to provide a sound analogy?
How many total car accidents were there?
And your equally stupid questions above don't take into account injuries and property damage.
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Why are you such an ignorant fool? And why do you insult constantly. Particularly when you are losing your fat sorry ass in an honest debate? Which is always.
1.13 deaths per 100 million miles tells you the motor vehicle fatality rate
It is analogous to the case fatality rate of an infectious diseases
Case fatality of covid in the U.S is 2.9% according to Johns Hoppkins
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
The case fatality rate of ciovid is 100 times worse than automobile fatality rate
So comparatively 100 times as many covid patients SUCCUMB than drivers.
Wanna legalize drunk driving, take away mitigation measures helping people survive car accidents?
And advise not keeping a safe distance between vehicles, socially?
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09-27-2020, 08:23 AM
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Why are you such an ignorant fool? And why do you insult constantly. Particularly when you are losing your fat sorry ass in an honest debate? Which is always.
1.13 deaths per 100 million miles tells you the motor vehicle fatality rate
It is analogous to the case fatality rate of an infectious diseases
Case fatality of covid in the U.S is 2.9% according to Johns Hoppkins
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
The case fatality rate of ciovid is 100 times worse than automobile fatality rate
So comparatively 100 times as many covid patients SUCCUMB than drivers.
Wanna legalize drunk driving, take away mitigation measures helping people survive car accidents?
And advise not keeping a safe distance between vehicles, socially?
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You are so shot. What is the "case car accident rate"!? You only gave the number of fatal car accidents not the total number of all accidents, you nitwit!
Then you double down on your ignorance by asking stupid questions about safety devices, car insurance, etc. failing to take into account other liability issues, such as injuries, property damage, etc.
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09-27-2020, 11:37 AM
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Yes, including the wonder drug HCQ!
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Didn't you get the memo? The use of HCQ as a treatment/preventative did not pass peer review.
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09-27-2020, 12:09 PM
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And so...? Is there a point in there somewhere?
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Do I really have to explain it to you?
In war you fight back!
The same goes for Covid. We fight back. We don't just do nothing and wait for herd immunity to set in. Over 200,000 deaths as of this morning (source: John Hopkins University of Medicine). Death rate expected to increase to 3,000 per day by the end of the year. We could possibly (just possibly) have a million deaths before this is over.
How many deaths if we don't fight back? Hard to say but I would venture a Scientific, Well Informed Guess would be ten million.
A historical example would be the Black Death of the middle ages. The did not fight back because they couldn't. Their medical knowledge was close to zero. One third of the population of Europe died. One third of the U.S. population is 100 million people.
Imagine one third of your extended family dying of Covid. Plus one third of all your friends.
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09-27-2020, 12:30 PM
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Do I really have to explain it to you?
In war you fight back!
The same goes for Covid. We fight back. We don't just do nothing and wait for herd immunity to set in. Over 200,000 deaths as of this morning (source: John Hopkins University of Medicine). Death rate expected to increase to 3,000 per day by the end of the year. We could possibly (just possibly) have a million deaths before this is over.
How many deaths if we don't fight back? Hard to say but I would venture a Scientific, Well Informed Guess would be ten million.
A historical example would be the Black Death of the middle ages. The did not fight back because they couldn't. Their medical knowledge was close to zero. One third of the population of Europe died. One third of the U.S. population is 100 million people.
Imagine one third of your extended family dying of Covid. Plus one third of all your friends.
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You "fight back" with common sense precautions. Quarantines for the infected. Isolation for people with compromised immune systems. Masks that protect the wearer.
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09-27-2020, 12:52 PM
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You are so shot. What is the "case car accident rate"!? You only gave the number of fatal car accidents not the total number of all accidents, you nitwit!
Then you double down on your ignorance by asking stupid questions about safety devices, car insurance, etc. failing to take into account other liability issues, such as injuries, property damage, etc.
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You mathematical Fool!
I actually gave you a lower rate than if all car crashes were tabulated.
If yo were to include all fender benders and other non fatal accidents resulting in nothing more than minor scratches and those consequently not reported to driver's insurance companies, would make the percentage of deaths 100' if not thousands of times lower than the miscue percentage I gave you.
Further demonstrating the idiocy of your statement that......
"more covid patients survive than succumb
Further demonstrating your hypocrisy that we need not do anything to control or mitigate the corronavirus. Remember Mr Wizard, the larger the numerator of a fraction compared to the denominator, when expressed as a percentage the LOWER it becomes. Therefore the lethalityy of auto accidents is barely noticeable as compared to covid.
Begging the question, why do we regulate motor vehicles?
Not paying attention in kindergarten, elementary school, letting your neurons atrophy, has major consequences for your shrill knee-jerked political ideology.
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09-27-2020, 12:57 PM
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You mathematical Fool!
I actually gave you a lower rate than if all car crashes were tabulated.
That number if yo were to include all fender benders and otherf non fatal accidents resulting in nothing more than minor scratches and those consequently not reported to driver's insurance companies, would make the percentage olf deaths 100' if niot thousands of times lower than thew miscue percentage I gave you. Further demonstrating your idiotic statement
"that more covid patients die than succumb
Further demonstrating your hypocrisy that we need not do anything to control or mitigate the corronavirus. Remember Mr Wizard the larger the numerator of a fraction compared to the denominator, when expressed as a percentage the LOWER it becomes. T herefore liberality of auto accidents is barely noticeable as compared to covid. Begging the question, why do we regulate motor vehicles?
Not paying attention in kindergarten, elementary school letting your neurons atrophy has major consequences for your shrill knee-jerked political ideology.
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You're lying again! This is what you wrote earlier:
There were 33,654 fatal motor vehicle crashes in the United States in 2018 in which 36,560 deaths occurred. This resulted in 11.2 deaths per 100,000 people and 1.13 deaths per 100 million miles traveled.
All you provided were fatal-related stats.
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