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08-19-2018, 06:09 AM
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What John Dean Has to Say About the NYT’s Blockbuster Don McGahn Story
Amazing the parallels to Watergate just keep on coming.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...mes-story.html
On Saturday, New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt broke a blockbuster story explaining that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, “cooperated extensively” with Robert Mueller’s investigation. According to the Times, McGahn spoke to the special counsel’s office for as much as 30 hours, on at least three separate occasions.
...Although what he said remains unknown, Haberman and Schmidt report that his testimony was sparked, at least in part, by the fear that “Mr. Trump was setting up Mr. McGahn to take the blame for any possible illegal acts of obstruction”
....There is one obvious historical parallel here, which the story mentions: “Worried that Mr. Trump would ultimately blame him in the inquiry, Mr. McGahn told people he was determined to avoid the fate of the White House counsel for President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Dean, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice in the Watergate scandal.” Dean did, however, help prosecutors near the end of his White House tenure, and served as a witness against the Watergate conspirators.
John Dean...
My second reaction is that Don McGahn is doing exactly the right thing, not merely to protect himself, but to protect his client. And his client is not Donald Trump; his client is the office of the president. That is one of the things that was cleared up as a result of Watergate. The American Bar Association reissued a code of ethics and dealt directly with representation of an organization, and who the client is. And the client, in this instance, would not be the man who holds the office, but the office. And that is a huge difference.
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08-19-2018, 06:24 AM
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Trump=King Kong?
On Saturday, The New York Times reported that White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II has “cooperated extensively” with special counsel Robert Mueller, including spending over 30 hours in voluntary interviews with investigators over the last nine months.
The report also included a fascinating anecdote on the relationship between the president and his attorney.
“But the two rarely speak one on one — the White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly, and other advisers are usually present for their meetings — and Mr. Trump has questioned Mr. McGahn’s loyalty.”
“In turn, Mr. Trump’s behavior has so exasperated Mr. McGahn that he has called the president ‘King Kong’ behind his back, to connote his volcanic anger,” The Times reported, based on interviews with people close to McGahn.
McGahn’s nickname for Trump may only have been revealed because of the strained relationship between the two.
“Mr. McGahn and his lawyer grew suspicious. They began telling associates that they had concluded that the president had decided to let Mr. McGahn take the fall for decisions that could be construed as obstruction of justice, like the Comey firing, by telling the special counsel that he was only following shoddy legal advice from Mr. McGahn,” The Times explained. “Worried that Mr. Trump would ultimately blame him in the inquiry, Mr. McGahn told people he was determined to avoid the fate of the White House counsel for President Richard M. Nixon, John W. Dean, who was imprisoned in the Watergate scandal.”
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08-19-2018, 07:45 AM
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Nobody cares, get a life!
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08-19-2018, 07:45 AM
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I hope Hillary isn't Fay Wray.
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08-19-2018, 09:35 AM
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Keep posting Hcap.
I can't find this much comedy in real life.
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08-19-2018, 09:56 AM
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Just another Facist
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What Obama did during his last five or so years makes Watergate look like Jaywalking.
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08-19-2018, 10:13 AM
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Hcap is steering this Ship of Fools! Onward over the Abyss!
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08-19-2018, 10:55 AM
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Humor like this usually costs good money
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08-19-2018, 11:06 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Seek help, my Precious!
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08-19-2018, 11:17 AM
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Oh lordy...
Who keeps giving this dumbass a microphone?
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08-19-2018, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Who keeps giving this dumbass a microphone?
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Fancy soundbite you all latch onto, pay attention to the rest of the statement.
Dumbass!
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08-19-2018, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodtoo
Fancy soundbite you all latch onto, pay attention to the rest of the statement.
Dumbass!
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I did and it doesn't make it any better...
"Donald Trump says: I didn't talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says: You did talk about it. So tell me, what the truth is?"
Ummm... the one that happened
Honestly the guy is a disaster and this Administration constantly changing its tune.
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08-19-2018, 12:22 PM
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08-19-2018, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
I did and it doesn't make it any better...
"Donald Trump says: I didn't talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says: You did talk about it. So tell me, what the truth is?"
Ummm... the one that happened
Honestly the guy is a disaster and this Administration constantly changing its tune.
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What is truth? Does not matteras long as alternative facts will do.The only administration to model itself after the rise of Cnancellor Hitler's regime.
Life became dangerous for foreign correspondents working in Germany as soon as Hitler was appointed Chancellor in January 1933. The Nazi regime made it clear that critical reports would not be tolerated, with propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels leading efforts to influence and pressurise the foreign press. The sources reporters had relied on for information started to fear for their lives. “I beg you not to let anybody know that you heard this from me, or it might get around and I should be arrested,” Rothay Reynolds, the Daily Mail’s bureau chief in Berlin, heard from one source soon after Hitler took power.
And we have his fanboys here boosting Da Leader and insulting skeptics who dare to not see the orange emperors new non existent clothes.
A badge of honor worn proudly, confused cultists
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08-19-2018, 01:52 PM
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You are a pathetic prson, Humpy.
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