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08-18-2018, 09:51 PM
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Poor, poor, Alfalfa...er… I mean Julien, was 0 for 5 today, but had a nice second in the Lake Placid at 10-1.
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08-18-2018, 10:05 PM
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I appreciate all the info and analysis but does anyone know exactly why Julien comes to Saratoga when he would have so much more success at like Ellis Park etc. Maybe he has family in the area.?
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08-18-2018, 10:09 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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I loved Andy Serling's comments about Irad Otiz after the last race today....
"He broke fast, got the lead. Why did he then rip the horses face off?!
Irad one of the worst jockey in history, IMHO.
If he is on my horse I will pass the race before I bet the hump.
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08-19-2018, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parlay
He has about a third of the mounts that the top riders have had.
He is riding for limited trainers.
The trainers he is riding for are low percentage at this meet
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As opposed to J.V. who is getting top mounts and has seconditis mostly it seems.
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08-19-2018, 01:53 AM
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He is ice cold
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08-19-2018, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZippyChippy423
I appreciate all the info and analysis but does anyone know exactly why Julien comes to Saratoga when he would have so much more success at like Ellis Park etc. Maybe he has family in the area.?
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Without having looked it up so I'm guessing, it's most likely because the top trainers he is riding for shipped to NY and asked him to go.
Or, it could be a "working vacation". He doesn't want to grind it out at Ellis, so he goes to the Spa to ride a couple a day and take it easy. Better weather, better horses.
Here's an interesting stat. His 57 mounts and 3 wins have earned $568k in purses. The leading rider at Ellis (Bridgmohan) has $622k in earnings on 85 starts and 22 wins.
If he manages to win 10-15 races at the meet, he probably does better than he would at Ellis.
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08-19-2018, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZippyChippy423
I remember he did poorly last year at Toga and this year even worse. Always thought of him as a great jockey but coming to Saratoga must suck the life right out of him. Why does he make the pilgrimage to NY every year?
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Not a fan of him at all especially in NY. Too passive for me and too passive for the NY circuit. However when he is at Kentucky Downs for that very brief meet you do have to pay attention to any of his mounts.
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08-19-2018, 07:17 PM
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Really the answer is obvious. He has over 2500 lifetime wins — he's trying to catch a big fish. So if he wins on a 1st timer in a MSW, who may have been 10-1, he will get the next mount, and the next mount, and so on, until maybe it leads to a TC or BC.
More big fish swim at the SPA than Ellis.
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08-19-2018, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
I loved Andy Serling's comments about Irad Otiz after the last race today....
"He broke fast, got the lead. Why did he then rip the horses face off?!
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Yea, I thought that was odd how Serling roasted him nationally on the Fox FS1 show..
So rare these days to hear on air talent lambaste a rider like that.
No love lost there for sure
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08-20-2018, 10:12 AM
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Julien has no mounts today. Why?
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08-20-2018, 03:19 PM
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When it's turf, discount Leparoux's horse at your own peril
I learned that long ago.
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08-20-2018, 04:42 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGarMan
Yea, I thought that was odd how Serling roasted him nationally on the Fox FS1 show..
So rare these days to hear on air talent lambaste a rider like that.
No love lost there for sure
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I seriously doubt Andy dislikes Irad. He is an analyst that gives his informed opinion. He praises deserving rides as well and doesn't play favorites, good or bad. We need more guys like him.
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08-25-2018, 05:04 PM
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Julien has his 3rd win of the meet!
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08-25-2018, 05:19 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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When you see him out in front, you know are giving a shit ride!
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08-25-2018, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redboard
Julien has his 3rd win of the meet!
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Like someone already said, watch out for Lep on turf. That winner paid $33.40.
That's about 7x what the chalk jocks give you for a win.
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