Racist WHITE cop manhandles tiny BLACK kid.

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I probably know more about cops than most people on the outside. That guy I mentioned that said $90K a year was great for no skills or education is still an L.A. County Sheriff (California). I actually helped him practice and study during the academy 25 years ago, so I heard all about the training.

The bad cops I knew were not rural, Anaheim P.D., San Bernardino County Sheriff and California Highway Patrol all large organizations, that patrol populated areas.

I realize the bad cops I knew all did their thing before cell phones and body cameras. Also had a friend whose grandfather was L.A.P.D. (50's-70's) he had a lot of stories to tell.

Tell me what is so hard about academy police training that a person with average intelligence and in decent physical condition cannot get through.
When my buddy went through the L.A. County Sheriff's academy they had a 80% graduation rate.

I would wager the hiring and screening practices have changed a lot over the decades. Most likely some members of the force back then could not, would not be hired now.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by fast4522

All the training in the world and people make mistakes, we expect LEO's mistakes to be smaller in nature. Those who expect zero mistakes know nothing about humanity. That is why this thread is stupid, all trades have accidents, those who have lost fingers were not all the short timers in the shop. As you on the left beat down LEO's for imperfect performance, just remember we all make mistakes for whatever reasons.

That is true. But that does not mean there should be consequences for the mistakes. When I was working and I made a mistake on the job, I had to suffered the consequences. So does everybody else. . Why should a cop be any different? When there are real consequences for mistakes, there are fewer mistakes made. I firmly believe that. But I also believe the consequences should fit the mistake. An out of control cop is something that can not be tolerated ever because he so much power over us. Any cop has to know and understand that.

[Tom]

That is true. But that does not mean there should be consequences for the mistakes.

Point to any publicized incident in recent months where there were no consequences?

Then I will point out how many Black looters and arsonist have had zero consequences.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

That is true. But that does not mean there should be consequences for the mistakes. When I was working and I made a mistake on the job, I had to suffered the consequences. So does everybody else. . Why should a cop be any different? When there are real consequences for mistakes, there are fewer mistakes made. I firmly believe that. But I also believe the consequences should fit the mistake. An out of control cop is something that can not be tolerated ever because he so much power over us. Any cop has to know and understand that.

Why should a cop be different?

On Monday night this week in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Constable Daniel Woodall and Constable Jason Harley went to a home to make a routine arrest concerning mounting complaints of a man involved in harrassing anotherfamily.

Constable Jason Harley rang the doorbell and was wounded by a shot in the back.
Constable Daniel Woodall, wearing body armour, was not so fortunate.
He was shot dead and died immediately.

The gunman in the home, went on to launch over 53 rounds of bullets into neighborhood homes. He then set fire to his house and put a bullet through his own head.
Police representatives from all over Canada and the United States will be attending Constable Woodall's funeral this Wednesday.

I think that Police deserve very special consideration as they represent you and me in bringing about Law and Order.
Their profession is a very dangerous one in contrast to most other occupations.

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[Tom]

Some idiot attacked the Dallas Police Station last night.

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by Tom

Some idiot attacked the Dallas Police Station last night.

It's ongoing the last time I looked.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Why should a cop be different?

On Monday night this week in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Constable Daniel Woodall and Constable Jason Harley went to a home to make a routine arrest concerning mounting complaints of a man involved in harrassing anotherfamily.

Constable Jason Harley rang the doorbell and was wounded by a shot in the back.
Constable Daniel Woodall, wearing body armour, was not so fortunate.
He was shot dead and died immediately.

The gunman in the home, went on to launch over 53 rounds of bullets into neighborhood homes. He then set fire to his house and put a bullet through his own head.
Police representatives from all over Canada and the United States will be attending Constable Woodall's funeral this Wednesday.

I think that Police deserve very special consideration as they represent you and me in bringing about Law and Order.
Their profession is a very dangerous one in contrast to most other occupations.

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It is tough and dangerous job, but it still does not give a cop the right to act in unprofessional or illegal manner. Nobody is forcing anybody to be a cop and they should know what job entails when they take. And I might add they should be properly trained to do it in a professional manner in all situations. If they can not act in professional manner in all situations, then they should find another line of work.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Tom

Point to any publicized incident in recent months where there were no consequences?

Then I will point out how many Black looters and arsonist have had zero consequences.

Are saying all the looters and arsonists that have had zero consequences in recent months have been Black? Why are so upset with only the Black ones?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Are saying all the looters and arsonists that have had zero consequences in recent months have been Black? Why are so upset with only the Black ones?

Duh?
Did you see a video of any WHITE guys setting a stoe on fire?
How many WHITE faces did you see coming out of the liquor stores?

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by Tom

Duh?
Did you see a video of any WHITE guys setting a stoe on fire?
How many WHITE faces did you see coming out of the liquor stores?

That's just the media profiling again.

[MutuelClerk]

What about the white guy who just shot up a Dallas police station?

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by MutuelClerk

What about the white guy who just shot up a Dallas police station?

What about them?

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by MutuelClerk

What about the white guy who just shot up a Dallas police station?

Who said white's never shoot anything?

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by Tom

Duh?
Did you see a video of any WHITE guys setting a stoe on fire?

[DJofSD]

Here's a series of tweets which some might find interesting -- others will alreay know the material.

When making contacts Officers need to: Use instinct and intuition within law.

When making contacts Officers need to: Always examine motives and biases.

When making contacts Officers need to: Take time to explain the reason for the contact.

In a Consensual Contact, who has the power?.....You do!

Consensual Encounters: Face to Face encounter between law enforcement officer and private individual...

Consensual Encounters: Done under circumstances where a reasonable person would believe: free to leave, not compelled to cooperate.

Consensual Encounter: Can officers compel cooperation? No. Persons must be allowed to leave unless...

Consensual Encounter:... reasonable suspicion to detain, or probable cause to arrest exists.

What is Reasonable Suspicion? It's an amount of certainty. But how much? About what?

Reasonable Suspicion: Officers believe criminal activity may be afoot and the person detained may be involved.

A Detention is base on reasonable suspicion.

Detention: An assertion of authority by an officer causing a reasonable person to believe they are not free to leave

During a detention, Officers must have reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. More than a consensual encounter(person not free to leave)

Detentions: can last a reasonable amount of time, must be temporary, only long enough to resolve reason for the stop.