2 Grade 1's, but lot's of Bad form...

[sammy the sage]

most I've seen coming into 2 races like this...plus some clocker reports not good either..

Anybody like something in either the Forego or Woodward...

[Robert Fischer]

Haven't done serious capping yet, but what about Dominguez going to ride RULE in the Woodward?

Is that a negative for TRICKMEISTER? a positive for RULE? or just a change?

Trickmeister has only breezed once since the Whitney.

may not even be important with some of the more highly regarded horses, - just an interesting jockey switch.

I remember CEASE was fairly visually impressive vs Golden Gulch(an allowance type horse who ran back pretty well since the Cease race).

[burnsy]

Its a really, really nice card today. If Saratoga is going to have these 12 race cards......this is what they should look like. I think having the 11 and 12 race cards during the week with 7 races that are not bettable.....is a mistake. Data Link and Mucho Macho Man are pretty obvious. Jackson Bend may bounce back with a better trip and a target from Emcee, also gets a new rider. I may be wrong but Shackleford has yet to run good up here. I might take a chance with Queen'splatekitten with Data Link and Guys Reward. The underpart of this card is good too. Saratoga at its finest.

[sammy the sage]

The cards very good...just wondering who'll bounce back...and who won't in the big ones...

Several trainer's were saying it was THE heat...could be...

[raybo]

Looks like Rule in the Woodward. 3 others underneath: To Honor and Serve, Gourmet Dinner, and Trickmeister.

[sammy the sage]

Well won't have to guess on one of them...Shackelford scratched...looks like clocker way more accurate than trainer BS.!

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by sammy the sage

Well won't have to guess on one of them...Shackelford scratched...looks like clocker way more accurate than trainer BS.!

was looking to bet against there, too bad.

[maclr11]

lets hear your picks sammy, or is all you want is our picks
woo me with your handicapping prowess

[Tom]

Looks like both Pletcher horse have the same pattern - good off the bench, come back dull. One of them might bounce back, but not interested in playing guessing games with older horses in TPs barn

MMM looks the best, but why bother betting at the odds - I can always take beer bottles back for the deposit if I need peanuts.

Gourmet Diner can't even win Gr3 races.
Trickmeister - last 4 decidedly worse than his first 5 - His Gr1 races suck. But can you really call this a Gr1 race?

Wonder if the Law and Order marathon is still on?

[slew101]

Prado just killed me with that ride on Jersey Town. Why not wait for the top two to turn for home and angle out? Jersey Town has always been a one-run type. Should have at least gotten second.

Tagg having a brutal meet. Gets that ride in the 9th and his other horse left at the gate in the 8th and still gets 3rd.

Chasing Cease in the 10th and Sleepy Freud in the 11th.

[Tom]

Might as well bet Cease - like the track, has a late kick, and this race is lacing in quality.


at the odds, throw him in

[Tom]

Seriously lacking in quality.......

[slew101]

Not a bad run for Cease, might be worth a look down the road.

[cj]

Originally Posted by slew101

Prado just killed me with that ride on Jersey Town. Why not wait for the top two to turn for home and angle out? Jersey Town has always been a one-run type. Should have at least gotten second.

Tagg having a brutal meet. Gets that ride in the 9th and his other horse left at the gate in the 8th and still gets 3rd.

Chasing Cease in the 10th and Sleepy Freud in the 11th.

I personally don't see anything bad about that ride. He was riding to win the race, not get you the place.

[raybo]

Originally Posted by raybo

Looks like Rule in the Woodward. 3 others underneath: To Honor and Serve, Gourmet Dinner, and Trickmeister.

10th Race - Saratoga - Saturday, September 1st, 2012
Conditions: Woodward S. (Grade 1), Stakes, $750,000, Open 3 yo's & up, 1 1/8M, Dirt.
Off Time: 5:47 Start: 7 went. Good for all. Won driving. Track: Fast Weather: Cloudy 78o
Pedigree: 6 - To Honor and Serve, Bay Colt, 4, by Bernardini - Pilfer by Deputy Minister
Fractions: :233, :472, 1:104, 1:353, 1:482 (:23.70, :47.45, 1:10.83, 1:35.77, 1:48.56)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
6 To Honor and Serve Velazquez John R. 126 9.30 3.60 2.60
3 Mucho Macho Man Smith Mike E. 126 2.50 2.10
7 Cease Rosario Joel 126 2.90
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$2 Pick 3 $62.00 4-6-6 (3 Correct) $274,813
$2 Daily Double $27.60 6-6 $180,584
$2 Exacta $22.40 6-3 $715,037
$2 Superfecta $349.00 6-3-7-4 $223,767
$2 Trifecta $88.00 6-3-7 $455,465
Owner: Live Oak Plantation
Trainer: William I. Mott
Breeder: Twin Creeks Farm, Larry Byer & RanchoSan Miguel (KY)
Also Ran: 4 - Trickmeister, 5 - Stay Thirsty, 1 - Rule, 2 - Gourmet Dinner