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08-23-2015, 06:05 PM
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The key to the mint in handicapping
Learn to watch warmups.
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08-23-2015, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Learn to watch warmups.
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Anything in particular to watch for?
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08-23-2015, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
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How the horse moves, disposition, coat, general body language, etc. it really comes down to being very observant and remembering how horses look from race to race, a lot of it is trial and error and learning the horse as an individual.
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08-23-2015, 07:52 PM
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watch how they pull up and/or gallop out after the race
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08-23-2015, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by green80
watch how they pull up and/or gallop out after the race
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Interesting you guys mention this ....I've never paid much attn to this part of handicapping...always more interested in numbers, angles, etc. Exactly 1 week ago Sunday the 16th, 4th race, @ Mountaineer, for some reason a horse named FLATTER YOU caught my eye. He had just won easily....and this horse literally strutted back to the winner's circle-like he was the baddest horse on the grounds. Trust me, I wasn't looking for anything--this horse just stood out! I put FLATTER YOU on my Watch list and started paying attn, so thanks G-80 and SRU for posting.
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08-23-2015, 11:13 PM
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You're welcome!
G80 has a good tidbit, if you go to the track live watch the gallop outs and watch the horses come back to be unsaddled, you can learn a lot watching them come back.
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08-23-2015, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
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Most of the time they don't show the horse's feet during the post parade, but if they do look for a horse that is prancing. It is very bad sign. That is not say that 2 or 3 times a year that a prancer will win, but most of the time they won't. There is generally at least one prancer in a race, often more. Usually its is a long shot, but I have seen 3/5 prancers lose too. An old trainer told me about this nearly 50 years ago and it has always worked me.
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08-24-2015, 01:11 AM
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Especially true in harness racing where they go two or three trips on the track. The younger they are the more they reveal.
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08-24-2015, 10:23 AM
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Most of the time they don't show the horse's feet during the post parade, but if they do look for a horse that is prancing
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I always thought seeing a horse on his toes was a good thing. Is that the same thing as prancing?
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08-24-2015, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Learn to watch warmups.
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this is why i don't like betting pick 3's and 4's... i always watch warm ups before big bets
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08-24-2015, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by delayjf
I always thought seeing a horse on his toes was a good thing. Is that the same thing as prancing?
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In addition to delayjf's question...someone skilled in equine body language please answer this also: What is a horse saying when he constantly nods his head up and down---I See this all the time pre-race...is he assuring bettors not to worry.. he's got this? Seriously,is there any meaning attached to this?
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08-24-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
In addition to delayjf's question...someone skilled in equine body language please answer this also: What is a horse saying when he constantly nods his head up and down---I See this all the time pre-race...is he assuring bettors not to worry.. he's got this? Seriously,is there any meaning attached to this?
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Depends on the horse and how much experience he or she has, first time starters I wouldn't like to see anything less than calm and focused, if you are a grizzled veteran, I wouldn't mind it as much. Generally though I would prefer the horse calm, nothing the horse is doing with his head that you mention is a positive, it's either neutral or negative.
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08-24-2015, 08:15 PM
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most horseplayers are not skilled enough in a horse's body language to get much out of the post parade. If a horse is off bad enough that the average horseplayer notices, he will never get past the track vet. Many horses that appear nervous or washed out still run well. All but the most experienced horseman would be much better off putting their handicapping efforts in other areas of the game.
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08-24-2015, 09:22 PM
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somebody here forgot to tell Zenyatta about prancing....
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08-24-2015, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
somebody here forgot to tell Zenyatta about prancing....
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Seattle Slew as well.....
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