Stronach Group announces ban on race day meds

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss

Because you’re totally unaware of the situation. It’s amusing to me that someone totally unaware of what is going on has so many opinions on it.

I realize this may seem foreign to you but it helps if you actually understand what is going on, how it started, progressed and how we got here. It helps if you understand TSG fired their long standing racing secretary right before the meet and their long standing super “retired” (forced out more or less) before the meet.

It helps if you understand the racing secretary and Ritvo were more or less pressuring trainers to stay in races they did not want to run in. It helps if you understand trainers were working and running horses MORE frequently than they would normally, especially cheaper ones because the secretary has no idea about his horse population. How many small issues led to catastrophic ones because horses were not given proper time to heal?

So if we’re running horses over a surface that was sealed like crazy, more frequently, because all we care about is the bottom line and a pick 6, what do you think happens?

You are all over the map bro. Earlier Chad suggested you have a split personality, I’m beginning to think he’s got at least that part right.

[JeremyJet]

The thing to do is cancel the remainder of the meet and run at Los Al.

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

You are all over the map bro. Earlier Chad suggested you have a split personality, I’m beginning to think he’s got at least that part right.

How am I all over the map? Because I’m more in tune with what is going on than you and he?

You both seem to think it’s ONLY track. That’s fine. He’s admitted to watching zero races this meet. Definitely someone I’d be wanting to align my opinion with.

Is this when I get to insult you also? Or is that reserved for guys that are way too old to still say bro?

[dilanesp]

I don't know enough about the ins and outs of track maintenance to know if it made a difference, but yes, Santa Anita fired a lot of people before the current meet (famously, they even fired their announcer!), and that is certainly a data point here.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss

How am I all over the map? Because I’m more in tune with what is going on than you and he?

You both seem to think it’s ONLY track. That’s fine. He’s admitted to watching zero races this meet. Definitely someone I’d be wanting to align my opinion with.

Is this when I get to insult you also? Or is that reserved for guys that are way too old to still say bro?

Ever think maybe your too close to it?

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by chadk66

Ever think maybe your too close to it?

Your ability to be wrong about everything you’ve posted in this thread is astounding. How am I too close to it?

[airford1]

Never realized that a trainer is allowed to load the horse up with prednisone. That will make you feel better than you are if you have a problem, at least it does for me.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss

Your ability to be wrong about everything you’ve posted in this thread is astounding. How am I too close to it?

you seem to have too much invested in this for some reason. And it appears you want it to be something it probably isn’t so bad that you won’t even listen to reason.

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by chadk66

you seem to have too much invested in this for some reason. And it appears you want it to be something it probably isn’t so bad that you won’t even listen to reason.

Once again....you’re just totally wrong. I prefer to use logic. I follow the circuit. I have followed along with what is going on.

You haven’t watched a race there this year.

Tell me again who won’t listen to reason?

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss

Once again....you’re just totally wrong. I prefer to use logic. I follow the circuit. I have followed along with what is going on.

You haven’t watched a race there this year.

Tell me again who won’t listen to reason?

your just talking in tongues lol. your just spewing all kinds of different possibilities which is fine. if you spew enough of them eventually you may be right

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by chadk66

your just talking in tongues lol. your just spewing all kinds of different possibilities which is fine. if you spew enough of them eventually you may be right

No...I’m giving logical reasons outside of “its the track.” I acknowledge part of it is the track but think it’s a bit more complex than you do.

Not my fault you’re not able to juggle more than one thought at a time.

I get it...you trained decades ago so you know it all as it relates to racing today. Because as we know, racing is EXACTLY the same today as it was in the 80s and 90s.

[Rex Phinney]

My very first claim days ago was that it was all the track. He claimed it wasn’t. Now he’s talking about all the damage sealing the track over and over is doing???

He said the trainers were running unsound horses, now he claims the racing secretary is holding a gun to their head, not just to RACE horses, but in the mornings also???

In the meantime he says everyone else is clueless, even though half of everything he says, backs what others are claiming.

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

My very first claim days ago was that it was all the track. He claimed it wasn’t. Now he’s talking about all the damage sealing the track over and over is doing???

He said the trainers were running unsound horses, now he claims the racing secretary is holding a gun to their head, not just to RACE horses, but in the mornings also???

In the meantime he says everyone else is clueless, even though half of everything he says, backs what others are claiming.

You’re doing a good job of vying with Chad to be the person wrong most in these threads.

In my very first post to you I said it was both the track and the horseman at fault.

I’ve never said trainers were being forced to work their horses. The only person I think is clueless in this conversation is Chad who admits to not watching racing at Santa Anita.

I mean I don’t think it’s that difficult to understand there can be more than one cause for something. 22 horses could have died because of the surface AND trainers pushing them too hard. Trainers can be getting pressure to run AND also be incompetent and push their horses too hard on their own.

I didn’t realize everything needs to be explained slow to some people. My apologies Rex and Chad. I’ll try to be more simple in the future so you “get it.”

[Rex Phinney]

Originally Posted by Dahossdaboss

You’re doing a good job of vying with Chad to be the person wrong most in these threads.

In my very first post to you I said it was both the track and the horseman at fault.

I’ve never said trainers were being forced to work their horses. The only person I think is clueless in this conversation is Chad who admits to not watching racing at Santa Anita.

I mean I don’t think it’s that difficult to understand there can be more than one cause for something. 22 horses could have died because of the surface AND trainers pushing them too hard. Trainers can be getting pressure to run AND also be incompetent and push their horses too hard on their own.

I didn’t realize everything needs to be explained slow to some people. My apologies Rex and Chad. I’ll try to be more simple in the future so you “get it.”

Of the 22 dead horses, they are from 19 different trainers. Did all the trainers get together and conspire to push their horses to breakdowns?

The problem is the track.

But if any of the horsemen don’t buy that, we could always have them contact you for instruction on how to push their horses...

[Dahossdaboss]

Originally Posted by Rex Phinney

Of the 22 dead horses, they are from 19 different trainers. Did all the trainers get together and conspire to push their horses to breakdowns?

The problem is the track.

But if any of the horsemen don’t buy that, we could always have them contact you for instruction on how to push their horses...

Just so we’re clear Drayden VanDyke agreed with me. What would he know?

Someone should tell him a trainer that trained 3 decades ago and a 40 year old that still calls people bro disagree with him.