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Old 10-17-2016, 09:45 AM   #16
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We know what we are dealing with here. The reason Fox, Drudge, alt-right sites, and now even Wikileaks are rising is that everyone with half a brain knows that the msm is heavily biased to the left. If you try to point that out (because many times biased people do not see their own biases), they will attack YOU and say you are wearing a tin foil hat etc...

So you do what you have to do.

If you want to know what's actually going on in the world you have to bypass the msm and search for news in a lot of places to find those that seem to be balanced, based on fact, or are at least giving you the other side of the story.

That's why I get all my economics and investing news from sources more closely associated with Austrian economic analysis. It's not the same old Keynesian clap trap that you get non stop from mainstream sources. The clowns in the msm have no idea what's going on and what the issues are.
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:28 AM   #17
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We know what we are dealing with here. The reason Fox, Drudge, alt-right sites, and now even Wikileaks are rising is that everyone with half a brain knows that the msm is heavily biased to the left. If you try to point that out (because many times biased people do not see their own biases), they will attack YOU and say you are wearing a tin foil hat etc...

So you do what you have to do.

If you want to know what's actually going on in the world you have to bypass the msm and search for news in a lot of places to find those that seem to be balanced, based on fact, or are at least giving you the other side of the story.

That's why I get all my economics and investing news from sources more closely associated with Austrian economic analysis. It's not the same old Keynesian clap trap that you get non stop from mainstream sources. The clowns in the msm have no idea what's going on and what the issues are.
Reminds me of 70's Russia. They couldn't believe a word from the "official media"
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:53 AM   #18
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We know what we are dealing with here. The reason Fox, Drudge, alt-right sites, and now even Wikileaks are rising is that everyone with half a brain knows that the msm is heavily biased to the left. If you try to point that out (because many times biased people do not see their own biases), they will attack YOU and say you are wearing a tin foil hat etc...

So you do what you have to do.

If you want to know what's actually going on in the world you have to bypass the msm and search for news in a lot of places to find those that seem to be balanced, based on fact, or are at least giving you the other side of the story.

That's why I get all my economics and investing news from sources more closely associated with Austrian economic analysis. It's not the same old Keynesian clap trap that you get non stop from mainstream sources. The clowns in the msm have no idea what's going on and what the issues are.
King World News is a great source.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:42 PM   #19
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In the 90s, when Bill Clinton was accused of rape and sexual abuse by many women, the press barely covered it. America barely remembers that Hillary Clinton abused his abuse victims and that Bill Clinton was impeached and disbarred for lying to the Grand Jury, a felony which would result in serious jail time for the rest of us.

But in the face of the hard proof of crimes of Hillary Clinton and clarity that the Democratic Party owns the FBI and Department of Justice, Donald Trump and sex is headlines every day.

Trump is fighting the Democrats, the Republican establishment who do not want him to uncover their criminal acts, the liberal media and the Hollywood elite.

His only allies are the American people. As long as we ignore the dubious polls (based on the difference of turnouts at Trump and Hillary events and get out and vote, we the people will prevail.
Boy, are you delusional. In the first place, the accusations about Clinton were all over the press in the nineties. Especially when you consider there was no alt right media back then. In the second place the so called abuse by Bill Clinton existed mainly in the minds of his so called victims. Consensual sex is not abuse, no matter how the Clinton haters try to spin it.

Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department is the tool of the Democratic Party and the fact that you dislike their evidence based decisions decisions does not matter one bit.

You can ignore the polls all you want. There is a poll coming up on November 8 that you will not be able to ignore.

Every election cycle there are stories about large and enthusiastic turnouts at the rallies of the candidate trailing in the polls; and every election cycle that candidate loses. In the case of Trump it will be even more so, because his supporters even more out of touch than usual.
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Old 10-17-2016, 12:54 PM   #20
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Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department is the tool of the Democratic Party and the fact that you dislike their evidence based decisions decisions does not matter one bit.
They claim not to carry water for either party, but it is bothersome to many that Martha Stewart went to jail for Obstruction of Justice and Hillary Clinton wasn't even charged.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:00 PM   #21
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All we can do is vote and make sure people don't stay home. I live in a blue state where the majority of people I speak with want Trump to win and share your skepticism mostly because of all of the negative press he receives.

My optimism comes from October in 1980 when the press was just as much against that maniac Reagan who is sure to start a nuclear war and their polls indicated a Carter landslide.

Not according to this. Reagan took the lead in the polls in early June and maintained that lead until the election in November; pulling away at the end.
If the majority of people you speak to in your blue state want Trump to win. you need to get out more.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:04 PM   #22
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That data does not jive with the story line on Killing Reagan on Nat Geo last night.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:13 PM   #23
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We know what we are dealing with here. The reason Fox, Drudge, alt-right sites, and now even Wikileaks are rising is that everyone with half a brain knows that the msm is heavily biased to the left. If you try to point that out (because many times biased people do not see their own biases), they will attack YOU and say you are wearing a tin foil hat etc...

So you do what you have to do.

If you want to know what's actually going on in the world you have to bypass the msm and search for news in a lot of places to find those that seem to be balanced, based on fact, or are at least giving you the other side of the story.

That's why I get all my economics and investing news from sources more closely associated with Austrian economic analysis. It's not the same old Keynesian clap trap that you get non stop from mainstream sources. The clowns in the msm have no idea what's going on and what the issues are.
I'm sure the propagandists for the Austrian school will do everything they can to present all sides of every issue. NO THEY WON'T!! And frankly, if I were to choose a person who does not know what is going on; who is locked into his own biased opinions, I would choose you.
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I'm sure the propagandists for the Austrian school will do everything they can to present all sides of every issue. NO THEY WON'T!! And frankly, if I were to choose a person who does not know what is going on; who is locked into his own biased opinions, I would choose you.
Truer words have never been spoken (or written).
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:26 PM   #25
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I'm sure the propagandists for the Austrian school will do everything they can to present all sides of every issue. NO THEY WON'T!! And frankly, if I were to choose a person who does not know what is going on; who is locked into his own biased opinions, I would choose you.
You and your left wing buddies have zero comprehension of how our economy works, where it is now, and why it's there. If any of them did, they wouldn't have been wrong about every bubble that blew up and damaged our country and middle class since I became active as an investor in the late 80s. We also wouldn't be on another precipice now.

The proof that the Austrians have a better understanding of the system is in their ability to foresee the negative implications of Keynesian policy before it results in the next set of excesses and blows up (and they have consistently). The proof that I do is the money I have made investing over the decades counter to the view of the nitwits that dominate mainstream thinking.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:32 PM   #26
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There's a lot they say about him, but they don't say he's bought and paid for by special interests. The other stuff is false flag nonsense either you're a store bought stooge or you're not, rest is just convo.
Both are hated. Trumps unfavorables are high as are Hilary's

To deny that....well there's not much I can do for ya, but they are facts.

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Class, Dumb and Dumber seem to be angry today.
Being called out like that by mostie, well, you da man!
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:36 PM   #28
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Truer words have never been spoken (or written).

You'd miss out on solid returns from the market, with less risk, and you'd be prepared for what's coming next instead of being mislead by a msm that is either incompetent or purposely withholding important insights to advance a Keynesian political agenda. And of course I am biased. I am always biased towards whatever actually works and describes reality better.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:41 PM   #29
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You and your left wing buddies have zero comprehension of how our economy works, where it is now, and why it's there. If any of them did, they wouldn't have been wrong about every bubble that blew up and damaged our country and middle class since I became active in the late 80s. We also wouldn't be on another precipice now.

The proof that the Austrians have a better understanding of the system is in their ability to foresee the negative implications of Keynesian policy before it results in the next set of excesses and blows up (and they have consistently). The proof that I do is the money I have made investing over the decades counter to the view of the nitwits that dominate mainstream thinking.
Wow...some proof, Classhandicapper. And...since you are so well-versed in all things "financial"...you are probably certain that all of us left-wingers are living in basement apartments, and eating ravioli out of a can...RIGHT?

Ohhh, how I wish I were as "successful" as you are.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:46 PM   #30
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You'd miss out on solid returns from the market, with less risk, and you'd be prepared for what's coming next instead of being mislead by a msm that is either incompetent or purposely withholding important insights to advance a Keynesian political agenda. And of course I am biased. I am always biased towards whatever actually works and describes reality better.
And I am biased too. I am biased against those who repeatedly boast about their unsubstantiated personal wealth, when they are debating on anonymous message boards.
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