Dubai World Cup

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by ten2oneormore

morning line


(+)1 Treasure Beach - 20-1
2 Red Cadeaux - 30-1
(-)3 Dullahan - 6-1
(-)4 Hunter's Light - 7-2
5 - Capponi - 20-1
6 - SideGlance - 30-1
7 - Planteur - 30-1
8 - Royal Delta - 4-1
9 - Meandre - 30-1
10 - Monterosso - 20-1
(+)11 - African Story - 10-1
(?)12 - Animal Kingdom - 5-1
13 - Kassiano - 12-1

+ = probable overlays
- = probable underlays

Animal Kingdom was a little disappointing in his prep, he's probably an underlay but could still run well. I'm a fan.
Royal Delta should run well, but will be bet.
Hunter's Light should be a contender but not a top 2 or 3 favorite.
Some of the foreign shippers are probably worth handicapping.
At this point, I like African Story as the top contender.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by ten2oneormore

Trinniberg in the golden shaheen

No prep for this, his BC win came over a GR/2P biased track, and this is synth. hmmmn

[UK View]

Impossible to bet on this race since they have moved it to Meydan and on the Tapeta!!

In the last 3 years NO horse has PLACED in single figure odds!!!!

Best advice would be to steer well clear. Especially if there is a slow early pace again which will totally ruin it for horse's like Animal Kingdom.

However if tempted to bet....

Hunters Light 4/1
Royal Delta 4/1
Animal Kingdom 11/2
African Story 9/1
Planteur 12/1
Dullahan 12/1
Kassiano 14/1
Monterosso 16/1
Capponi 16/1
Meandre 20/1
Side Glance 25/1
Treasure Beach 25/1
Red Cadeux 25/1

Logically the choice has to be Hunters Light. Has a good draw, likes the track and the distance. Maybe not top class but then neither was Monterosso or Capponi last year!!

I like Animal Kingdom but first time up at the track, and with an abysmal draw, and 11/2?? No chance. If he was 10/1 then maybe but not at those odds.

Royal Delta was hampered badly last year when appearing to travel well? I think the jockey will need to have her more prominently positioned to feature this time. At 4/1 she is just too short.

African Story has had just one run this year, and that was in a pretty weak G3. Never raced beyond a mile so stamina is an obvious worry.

Dullahan I just couldn't have. Terrible prep run and often held up. Not ideal at Meydan.

Planteur wasn't good enough a year ago so no reason to believe he will do any better this time?

Kassiano is similar to Capponi last year in that he is experienced at the track and is improving with every run. Could surprise but has an awful draw!!

Monterosso and Capponi have both had their problems and are another year older. I would expect Godolphin to be mightily disappointed if Hunter's Light wasn't better than these two?

Meandre has never won over a trip this short. Could be finishing to good effect but will surely find the race happening way ahead of him?

Side Glance shouldn't be good enough but was staying on over 9f on his Meydan debut and could surprise if taking to the surface?

Treasure Beach I have always felt got a rough deal from Aiden O'Brien. Been used as cannon fodder for his more fashionable types previously. I've always felt there was another decent race in him but more likely over further.

Red Cadeaux needs further!!

In conclusion I would have to go for Hunter's Light as the safest option, despite the terrible recent record of fancied horses. Kassiano would be my next best followed by African Story.

Im sure I will be proved completely wrong come Saturday!!

[rrpic6]

No Lasix or any other meds could mean a USA shutout.

RR

[Vengeance of Rain]

PPs...

http://www.amwestentertainment.com/p...s-20130030.pdf

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by Vengeance of Rain

PPs...

http://www.amwestentertainment.com/p...s-20130030.pdf

Red Cadeaux and Meandre look to be the top foreign shippers.

They are coming out of some of the best turf races. They should be OK cutting back from the classic international turf distance of 12f to run in this 10f synthetic race. This is arguably a class drop for them as well.

[Vengeance of Rain]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Red Cadeaux and Meandre look to be the top foreign shippers.

They are coming out of some of the best turf races. They should be OK cutting back from the classic international turf distance of 12f to run in this 10f synthetic race. This is arguably a class drop for them as well.

I'm going with Planteur.

The one I really like is Mr. Big in the Al Quoz especially with the liklihood of Eagle Regiment scratching. Using him with the other HK runner, Joy and Fun, and the favorite Shea Shea.

That's as far as I've gotten.

Love the Duty Free field. Too bad Igugu had to spend a million years in quarantine. She was fantastic.

[UK View]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

Red Cadeaux and Meandre look to be the top foreign shippers.

They are coming out of some of the best turf races. They should be OK cutting back from the classic international turf distance of 12f to run in this 10f synthetic race. This is arguably a class drop for them as well.

Possibly, if the pace was lightening fast? It's a big if though. The pace has been slow 3 years in a row.

Red Cadeaux has never won over less than 12f and Meandre only just got up once over 11f on heavy ground!!

I would give more chance to Meandre given his tactical speed.

[Vengeance of Rain]

Well if you guys are right that will be great news for Ramzan Kadyrov (the Chechen murderer-in-charge ooops I mean "president") since he just bought the poor horse.

[olddaddy]

Both flying in deep stretch, hopefully one gets to the wire first.

[ten2oneormore]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

No prep for this, his BC win came over a GR/2P biased track, and this is synth. hmmmn

I was just clarifying for ponyplayadotca who said "I'm not sure who "Trinny" you are referring to is. Or are you talking about a different race than the big one?".I can't trust anything lasix off for the first time.

At the prices I'm liking 5-Reynaldothewizard at 12-1 in Golden Shaheen.

[ten2oneormore]

Was pretty surprised that on Timeform Royal Delta is basically a cinch.She has consistently ran figures much better than anyone.Only Monterosso in last year's DWC is in the ballpark.Plus it can't hurt she is getting 5 pounds from everyone.Again though it's hard to predict how lasix off will hinder her.

For some prices I'm interested in 5-Capponi and 1-Treasure Beach, both 20-1 ML.Capponi because Al Zarooni winds them up as good as anyone first time off the bench before they go south in subsequent starts.Treasure Beach because if you followed this year's carnival one thing that stuck out was de Kock 2nd time out after layoff.He does look a little slow but if he improves off his first run as much as most of de Kock's others then its possible he is right there with Hunter's Light who is the favorite and TB is 20-1 ML maybe goes off higher.

[rrpic6]

U. S. based horses yet to hit the board thru the 1st six races. This is what drug-free racing looks like.

RR

[Tom]

That is a good thing.

[nat1223]

US horses are less superior for sure..US horse racing is going down the tubes just like our government! its not about fair racing in the states...