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12-20-2010, 02:21 AM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 10,206
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Perhaps a poll asking for frequency of play rather than level of success, would be more telling...and probably more honest.
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You might be right. I don't think the poll results are so much dishonest as they are unrepresentative of both groups, the losing players and the winning players. I think more winning players (per capita(?)) voted, compared to losing players. PA has thousands of members but only 190 actually voted.
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12-21-2010, 01:42 PM
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#182
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
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how many of you guys would make a profit by lay betting on sites like betfair! if it was available to you in the usa i wonder?
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12-21-2010, 04:48 PM
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#183
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by stavo
how many of you guys would make a profit by lay betting on sites like betfair! if it was available to you in the usa i wonder?
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Well, I'm not really informed on lay betting, but, I can definitely tell you which horses to bet against. The odds one can get, is another story.
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12-22-2010, 07:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
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thats interesting raybo i am listening! maybe we could do a test if you like today? we got betting available at tampa, beulah, fairgrounds, on betfair this evening, would you like to give it a go? i could check the results after at betfair prices to see if you did make a profit or not? i have found that the prices differ quite often! for example last night a fav on the usa sp started 10 minutes before the off at 4/5 ended up 2/1 but over here on betfair it went out to 11/1 before shortening back a bit to 10/1 at the off! the horse did not win but it shows quite a difference you would have to agree? anyway let me know if you would like to paticipate? on here or pm if you like? cheers
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12-23-2010, 12:48 PM
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#185
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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There is no win or lose it is entertainment
I would re-word this thread and talk about how much your entertainment value cost.
A buddy of mine has seasons ticket to the Arizona Cardinals, I think they cost $2,000 now that is a loss. Players make millions even if they don't perform.
My brother has a golf membership that costs almost $10K per year and he is a 22 handicap.
On and on it could go as to where our friends who patronize other sports lost supporting their teams.
I would rather bet on the horses anytime for the amount of time I get to play for my money and have months go by where I do not have to redeposit. The athletes and owners in our sport only get paid when they perform.
It is all perspective...it is not win or lose it is cost of your entertainment.
Lets enjoy our passion not apologize for it.
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12-23-2010, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Originally Posted by trotter2229
I would re-word this thread and talk about how much your entertainment value cost.
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I would rather bet on the horses
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If you couldn't place bets on the horses, would it still offer you much "entertainment value?"
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12-24-2010, 05:56 AM
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#187
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelso
If you couldn't place bets on the horses, would it still offer you much "entertainment value?"
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The races would have to be closer together but I would for sure. The Game would have to change its presentation to the public like all other non-wagering sports but I would love it just the same.
We would probably appreciate it more because we could admire the skill of the driver, trainer and horses if we weren't losing a bet.
Let's face it what would be the viewer-ship of the NFL if it wasn't for rampant betting that takes place each week.
For entertainment you can't beat it - free admission - free parking - and a chance to win with your entertainment investment.
We encourage you to attend your local track, the worldwide web is for your non-home track wagering.
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www.ibetharness.com
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12-24-2010, 11:23 AM
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#188
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
Posts: 16,316
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How much money do you make each year on racing?
Some, but not enough to brag about, but I will anyway.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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12-24-2010, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trotter2229
Let's face it what would be the viewer-ship of the NFL if it wasn't for rampant betting that takes place each week.
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My guess is that it would be a hell of a lot more than those viewing non-parimutuel horse racing. Watching humans beat each other into the ground is simply much more entertaining than watching pretty horsies carry short guys around an oval.
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Originally Posted by trotter2229
We encourage you to attend your local track, the worldwide web is for your non-home track wagering.
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Who, exactly, is this "we" of whom you type?
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12-24-2010, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelso
My guess is that it would be a hell of a lot more than those viewing non-parimutuel horse racing. Watching humans beat each other into the ground is simply much more entertaining than watching pretty horsies carry short guys around an oval.
Who, exactly, is this "we" of whom you type?
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Thanks for your feedback and both of us can have different thoughts on the best sport to watch but either way it is great to talk about Horse Racing. The "we" is myself and my partners at www.iBETHARNESS.COM
I look forward to discussing further
Have a wonderful holiday season and a Happy Horsey New Year
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01-01-2011, 10:59 AM
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#191
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelso
If you couldn't place bets on the horses, would it still offer you much "entertainment value?"
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I derive entertainment by watching the loud mouth "experts" become whining crybabies in less than three minutes time.
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01-02-2011, 01:48 PM
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#192
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Topeka,KS
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Correction!!!
I voted erroniously in the poll by marking the +$100k spot.I failed to read the "k" after the $100.Actually I won only $971.20.My apologies to all.
Richard
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