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Old 03-17-2021, 09:16 PM   #1
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New Orleans Classic - Gr2

Has Owendale finally found a field he can beat? He just never seems to get by, losing ground in the last 1/8 more times than not. Once again, he looks like a major player (and probable ML favorite). Will likely improve 2nd off the shelf, but I will take my chances against a win at low odds.

The other contenders:

Roadster - off for a year and now gone from the Baffert barn. Might be the speed as this race lacks any true E types. Not sure what to do with this guy.

Sonneman - a bit of a hnager in his own right, he seems to prefer 2nd place to winning. Still, a consistent runner and had a good 2nd behind Maxfield last out. Can be right there.

Chess Chief - good horse & based on his FG form, he has a shot. Cross out all races at other tracks. Can easily hit the board.

Enforceable - another pretty good runner who also loves FG, but he just hasn't gotten any better than his 3yr old form. Back class; faced the best of his generation in the Blue Grass & Kentucky Derby and didn't run too badly either time. Another who can get a piece.

Olliemyboy - how about this guy? The 'now' horse. Two consecutive wins with a strong late run in each. Steps into the big leagues, but there are no killers in this field...lightly raced, seems to be improving, razor sharp, he can get a big piece at a good price. Irad up is always a plus. My key runner.

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Old 03-18-2021, 12:42 AM   #2
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There just isn't any speed in this race.
I usually don't like taking horses exiting the Baffert barn,but...
I'll go with Roadster hoping he can find some of his former early lick.
Maybe on my multi's I'll throw in Olliemyboy on the sharpness factor hoping he doesn't blow the start,which can be his MO.
Two deep on my P-3/4/5.
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:17 PM   #3
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Has Owendale finally found a field he can beat? He just never seems to get by, losing ground in the last 1/8 more times than not. Once again, he looks like a major player (and probable ML favorite). Will likely improve 2nd off the shelf, but I will take my chances against a win at low odds.

The other contenders:

Roadster - off for a year and now gone from the Baffert barn. Might be the speed as this race lacks any true E types. Not sure what to do with this guy.

Sonneman - a bit of a hnager in his own right, he seems to prefer 2nd place to winning. Still, a consistent runner and had a good 2nd behind Maxfield last out. Can be right there.

Chess Chief - good horse & based on his FG form, he has a shot. Cross out all races at other tracks. Can easily hit the board.

Enforceable - another pretty good runner who also loves FG, but he just hasn't gotten any better than his 3yr old form. Back class; faced the best of his generation in the Blue Grass & Kentucky Derby and didn't run too badly either time. Another who can get a piece.

Olliemyboy - how about this guy? The 'now' horse. Two consecutive wins with a strong late run in each. Steps into the big leagues, but there are no killers in this field...lightly raced, seems to be improving, razor sharp, he can get a big piece at a good price. Irad up is always a plus. My key runner.

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Errrks...made an error...Olliemyboy is actually the
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:39 PM   #4
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Errrks...made an error...Olliemyboy is actually the
Ollie Ollie oxen three!
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Old 03-18-2021, 01:49 PM   #5
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Roadster- id like 5-1 happy 2 see him in a new barn, thought he was dead. now will he run fast?

Chess Chief -easy for me to like here


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Old 03-19-2021, 06:40 PM   #6
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In the New Orleans. I'm going with the 4 Captivating Moon.
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Old 03-20-2021, 09:52 AM   #7
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I wonder why they brought Roadster back. He already has a Grade 1 win.

Couldn't he find a spot as a stallion just off that?
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Old 03-20-2021, 11:04 AM   #8
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In the New Orleans. I'm going with the 4 Captivating Moon.
Looks like Captivating Moon is going in the Turf stakes instead.

The lack of pace in this race is glaring. Roadster might be the most likely early leader coming out of sprints and it looks like he has been training fast. Don't like the more than a year lay off, but has ran good races off the bench. Also been training at FG for around 3 months or so with a string of nice works. I assume Stidham has had him since the first of the year.

Geroux will probably try to keep Owendale connected to the early pace like Maxfield in the Mineshaft.
Looks like Stewart has targeted this race for Chess Chief and he should be closer to the leader or on the lead himself and I might land there for the win.

Always have liked this race, used to run it at a mile and a quarter. I was at the 1984 edition when Wild Again nipped Explosive Bid at the wire, same year WA won the inaugural BC Classic. Jimmy the Greek was there doing a show for maybe CBS on that race, I remember he did not pick Wild Again who was around 10-1. I had it, probably why I remember it so well, but it was a great race too.
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I wonder why they brought Roadster back. He already has a Grade 1 win.

Couldn't he find a spot as a stallion just off that?
Maybe we can just celebrate the fact that he DIDN'T go to the breeding shed?
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Stretching it to call this a Gr3 race.
Nothing good early, not much good late.

Enforceable looks interesting. Good in the derby trail and then flattened out as so many do. Now he is sowing improving form and set a new top two back agsint a legit pace, then, understandably, a slight regression.

Can he move ahead again today?
M:L 8-1, he is my play.
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Looks like Captivating Moon is going in the Turf stakes instead.

The lack of pace in this race is glaring. Roadster might be the most likely early leader coming out of sprints and it looks like he has been training fast. Don't like the more than a year lay off, but has ran good races off the bench. Also been training at FG for around 3 months or so with a string of nice works. I assume Stidham has had him since the first of the year.

Geroux will probably try to keep Owendale connected to the early pace like Maxfield in the Mineshaft.
Looks like Stewart has targeted this race for Chess Chief and he should be closer to the leader or on the lead himself and I might land there for the win.

Always have liked this race, used to run it at a mile and a quarter. I was at the 1984 edition when Wild Again nipped Explosive Bid at the wire, same year WA won the inaugural BC Classic. Jimmy the Greek was there doing a show for maybe CBS on that race, I remember he did not pick Wild Again who was around 10-1. I had it, probably why I remember it so well, but it was a great race too.
I did not know that . Thanks. Looks like no bet for me
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Old 03-20-2021, 02:19 PM   #12
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Maybe we can just celebrate the fact that he DIDN'T go to the breeding shed?
Baffert prolly wanted him to go to the breeding shed and the owners disagreed, wanted to see him race and win.

Hasn’t won in almost two years. Lots of seconds last year on the pps.

Can he do one better today under a new trainer?

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Baffert prolly wanted him to go to the breeding shed and the owners disagreed, wanted to see him race and win.

Hasn’t won in almost two years. Lots of seconds last year on the pps.

Can he do one better today under a new trainer?

Allan
Same owners ran Collected for another year after his Gr I win and 2nd in the BC Classic.

May need to add any Speedway Stable 3YOs in the future to the list of geldings and fillies that comprise my shortlist of TC contenders I root for/care about seeing do well.
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The Olliemyboy opens up as the 2nd choice at 7-2 off a 12-1 ML


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