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Old 08-29-2017, 04:36 PM   #136
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China unilaterally placed sanctions on NK. They also supported the U.N. Security Council resolution calling for sanctions.

This post makes no sense.
They are playing both sides, its not supposed to make sense to us.

It makes no sense for NORK to fire off missiles willy-nilly in the first place really.
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:46 PM   #137
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Bingo. North Korea is simply a puppet of China, and is now being used to gauge the will of the West from preventing the spread of communism. The response to tonight's missile launch over Japan will most likely be bluster and talk, and maybe some weak sanctions, but of course will reflect the continued decline of the American Empire. It won't be long until there's one Korea (answering to Beijing), Taiwan will rejoin Red China, and Japan and China will probably have a shooting war over resources in the South China Sea - and the U.S. won't be doing much about it.

Thinking that politicians are seriously interested in a long-term solution is rather humorous as well. There was good money to be made in the Defense industry for decades propping up the South Koreans, but the Federal budget is getting tighter every year, and South Korea will be one of the first casualties - we simply can't afford to protect a piece of rock which has less use to us than other areas in the world = say, the oil fields in the Middle East.

It's also a safe bet there will human casualties along the way, as individual life in the East doesn't carry the same level of "holiness" and value as in the West. China has many internal problems like the U.S., and war is a great distraction.
What if you own a Hyundai or Kia?
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:53 PM   #138
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If history has taught us anything,it is that we cannot allow little pukes like this N Korean inbred POS to exist. Take him out NOW.

He fired a missile over Japan. His right to live if now over.
We left Hitler and Stalin both go way too far. Not again.

And I own a Hyundai.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:32 PM   #139
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It's a tricky situation because we're likely to wind up fighting the Chinese at some point in the hostilities. The goal would be to not have that happen on the periphery though; Taiwan, Sea of Japan, South China Sea, Vietnam ect.

Main goal would be getting them to agree to a limited war. A la the Falklands or Korea I.

Gloves can't really come off until then.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:55 PM   #140
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PDJT asks UN for vote on NORK next Monday, to bring them into the 19th century (denuclearization). China ask for removal of US troops, Trump agrees.

End of Korean war. Chinese economy restored for peace.
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Old 09-09-2017, 01:02 PM   #141
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PDJT asks UN for vote on NORK next Monday, to bring them into the 19th century (denuclearization). China ask for removal of US troops, Trump agrees.

End of Korean war. Chinese economy restored for peace.
Luckily that can't/won't happen.
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And I think its gonna be a long long time
Till touchdown brings me around again to find
I'm not the guy they think I am at home
Oh no no no I'm a rocket man
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Beyond sickening.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politi...rea/index.html

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"To call it juvenile would be an insult to children for what he did tonight," retired Adm. John Kirby, a former State Department and Pentagon spokesman told CNN's Jake Tapper on Tuesday.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:13 AM   #144
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Sharp tweet!
Got the little POS thinking for sure.
Just like Reagan scarred the crap out of the Russians with his flippant
comments.

Pretty sure Obama never instilled this kind of reality in to the little dung pile.

Besides, both FNN and Dan don't like it, so it must be good!
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:16 AM   #145
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Said Kirby now a CNN analyst " There is no question they are going to lead to
miscalculation and confusion over there"

DOH Beyond sickening? What the hell are your credentials Dan?

This is beyond your scope, geez and were talking Rocket Man.

Leave this to the Generals please.

Don't let his tweets get you all twisted talk to Sarah if you need an explanation.
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Who the hail is Sarah Kendzior? The article she links to is really weak sauce. The few facts in the article are in direct contradiction to the premise, and point to lessening hostilities, at least in the short term.

The article links to other articles which show no hint of proof, but they are behind paywalls so it is hard to tell. But everyone is having a great time tossing around the term "bloody-nose" military attack, which must be the hot phrase of the week in La-La-Land.
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If Trump strikes N Korea and the North Koreans start pouring over the border to escape........it would be legendary......

The NKorean military is obviously not motivated to protect Lil Kim.

Who knows what would happen
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I'm not sure this is anything. This kind of stuff is wargamed quite frequently. The last one I'm aware of (made public?) was in the 90s when the Clinton Administration did it and it didn't go so good for us.

Even if a preemptive strike were to take place a bunch of redlines and maneuvering on the geopolitical landscape have to happen first. Plus a MASSIVE build up in the theater.

Vinson is currently in San Diego, Nimitz at Bremerton, leaving only Reagan in theater at Yokosuka.
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I'm not sure this is anything. This kind of stuff is wargamed quite frequently. The last one I'm aware of (made public?) was in the 90s when the Clinton Administration did it and it didn't go so good for us.

Even if a preemptive strike were to take place a bunch of redlines and maneuvering on the geopolitical landscape have to happen first. Plus a MASSIVE build up in the theater.

Vinson is currently in San Diego, Nimitz at Bremerton, leaving only Reagan in theater at Yokosuka.
Um no, there is one more carrier out there west of the Malacca straits and can head east if needed.
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