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Old 01-16-2019, 06:15 PM   #31
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But apparently, people keep lists on Trump but those same people had no such lists on Hillary/Obama. That's ok. I understand completely.
When it comes to your floundering posts, so do we..

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There's a threads for this.

Obama and Hillary were both considerably tougher on Putin.

Some would even say Putin preferred Trump to Hillary for that very reason.
Yes that retaliation for the Ukraine invasion and shooting down the commercial airliner was out of this world. The US had Putin and Russia shaking in his boots. Here is a pic of Putin giving 0bama a ride.


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Old 01-16-2019, 08:10 PM   #33
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You started talking about lists:

"if you'd like a list of the things Trump has done that weakens the United States and strengthens Putin the list is pretty long..."

I just opined how such a list compared to Hillary as SoS and Obama as Pres.

But apparently, people keep lists on Trump but those same people had no such lists on Hillary/Obama. That's ok. I understand completely.
Oh... that list:

Syrian withdrawal
Weakening NATO
INF Withdrawal
Weakening the EU
Withholding sanction enforcement
Removal of sanctions

I have no problems critiquing the Obama Administrations actions either... want that one?
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:50 AM   #35
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You still don't have a list for Hillary and/or Obama?

Funny how your Trump list is at the ready...but you've needed to buy time for the other two lists. And don't tell me their lists are empty...

It's because like I said...nobody kept track of HIllary/Obama...especially the media...so you have to come up with your own material...Trump, they make it easy on you, repeating the same shit day after day after day...the list is like second nature.
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Old 01-17-2019, 12:58 AM   #36
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Oh... that list:

Syrian withdrawal
Weakening NATO
INF Withdrawal
Weakening the EU
Withholding sanction enforcement
Removal of sanctions

I have no problems critiquing the Obama Administrations actions either... want that one?
How does saying the US paying over half of cost of NATO and is wrong help Putin?

How is US weakening EU?

Isn't Russia now like 10th strongest country?

Is Russia really more of a threat than China?


Isn't it nice to be energy independent so that middle east or Russia or Venezuela can not squeeze us?
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It's all RUSSIA all the TIME.

It's called an AGENDA.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:27 AM   #38
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How does saying the US paying over half of cost of NATO and is wrong help Putin?

How is US weakening EU?

Isn't Russia now like 10th strongest country?

Is Russia really more of a threat than China?


Isn't it nice to be energy independent so that middle east or Russia or Venezuela can not squeeze us?
Understanding NATO fail...

Trump seeks bipartisan deals with EU members

Yup... We should keep it that way with strong sanctions.

Russia still has a power projection capability greater than China and is actively engaged in territorial expansion/adventurism.

Completely irrelevant toss in.
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You still don't have a list for Hillary and/or Obama?

Funny how your Trump list is at the ready...but you've needed to buy time for the other two lists. And don't tell me their lists are empty...

It's because like I said...nobody kept track of HIllary/Obama...especially the media...so you have to come up with your own material...Trump, they make it easy on you, repeating the same shit day after day after day...the list is like second nature.
I have no idea what "list" you even want... make a clearer point... I've given you 3 different ones.

Trump is significantly weaker on Russia than any President since FDR went to Yalta.
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Trump is significantly weaker on Russia than any President since FDR went to Yalta.
But the reality is this.

Nothing of significance has happened between US and Russia. Nothing.

There has been no major cave to Russia. There has been no major scores by Russia. You'll talk of some petty sanctions this or sanctions that. Nobody gives a flying **** about sanctions either way. Sanctions come and go like the breeze.

Syria? Syria is baby shit compared to other recent Russia-events in prior administrations. And don't tell me it's some major center of world domination. It's not. It's world powers getting to play a bit with their toy soldiers and swing some dicks around in some shithole of our own creation.

Let's see...what other HUGE RUSSIA STUFF has happened...ummmm...nothing...that's right.

It's manufactured nonsense designed, once again, to paint Trump in as abysmal light as possible.

NOTHING of importance has happened concerning Russia. N O T H I N G
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But the reality is this.

Nothing of significance has happened between US and Russia. Nothing.

There has been no major cave to Russia. There has been no major scores by Russia. You'll talk of some petty sanctions this or sanctions that. Nobody gives a flying **** about sanctions either way. Sanctions come and go like the breeze.

Syria? Syria is baby shit compared to other recent Russia-events in prior administrations. And don't tell me it's some major center of world domination. It's not. It's world powers getting to play a bit with their toy soldiers and swing some dicks around in some shithole of our own creation.

Let's see...what other HUGE RUSSIA STUFF has happened...ummmm...nothing...that's right.

It's manufactured nonsense designed, once again, to paint Trump in as abysmal light as possible.

NOTHING of importance has happened concerning Russia. N O T H I N G
I would say this post is a load of bullshit.

Looks at:
NATO
EU
United European Army
North Korea Failure
Inserting ourselves into Brexit
Syria Cluster****
TPP Withdrawal
JCPOA Withdrawal
INF Withdrawal

You know the things I comment on all the time around here that you either dismiss or argue...

All of the above strengthen the hands of Russia...
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But the reality is this.

Nothing of significance has happened between US and Russia. Nothing.

There has been no major cave to Russia. There has been no major scores by Russia. You'll talk of some petty sanctions this or sanctions that. Nobody gives a flying **** about sanctions either way. Sanctions come and go like the breeze.

Syria? Syria is baby shit compared to other recent Russia-events in prior administrations. And don't tell me it's some major center of world domination. It's not. It's world powers getting to play a bit with their toy soldiers and swing some dicks around in some shithole of our own creation.

Let's see...what other HUGE RUSSIA STUFF has happened...ummmm...nothing...that's right.

It's manufactured nonsense designed, once again, to paint Trump in as abysmal light as possible.

NOTHING of importance has happened concerning Russia. N O T H I N G
Russia got this big pipeline to sell Germany fuel.
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These people are obsessed with her...
Drama Queen much?

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You guys bagged on Democrats for blaming Bush constantly... at least he was a ****ing president...
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Investigate some more. I'm just not sure why it's such a high priority for all of you folks at this point.

I can assure you once Trump is no longer in office I will give zero shits what happens to him.
Says a lot about you. WE are concerned with what is good for the country, and that JUSTICE is never denied.
YOU are in it for the pot shots and to try to make yourself look superior.
YOU are very transparent.

Is that an attack?
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What list are you talking about.
Backtracking.
You do this a lot when confronted with reality.
Too bad the board doesn't have sound....most of your posts would have "beep...beep...beep...beep" playing.

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How many threads can you start claiming the demise of Hillary Clinton is just around the corner? Surely, you are the Poster Boy of Trolling in Off-Topic -General by a mile.

Yet not one peep from PA accusing you of the most obvious. No, Ely or Dan is THE TROLLER around here at the moment according to PA.

Just so nobody misses my point (except Tommy of course), I don't want you banned, Ralph. But I don't want Dan or Ely banned either and those guys are somehow on the fence while you troll on.


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