Do tracks show their races on a slight delay?

[davew]

I was watching the 3rd at Gulfstream today and my screen froze for a couple seconds. When it started again, one of the front 3 horses was gone. There were 3 across in the lead, then one disappeared and I heard the announcer say that '4' threw the rider.

I read the results chart and horse was euthanized on the track. I was wondering if all tracks do this, or is Florida more sensitive now that the greyhounds got voted out with help from activist group grey2k usa. If so how many seconds is the delay, as I bet close to start.

As a side note, it will be interesting to see what happens to greyhound handle of remaining tracks when 60%+ of the greyhound tracks close in next 2 years.

[titans1127]

Just a coincidence that the feed froze for you at that point. I just watched the replay and there is no editing or glitches in the feed. You see the horse go down.

Usually the tracks will edit those parts out of the head on replay if the horse has to be euthanized or if it's just a bad spill.

[devilsbag]

Not sure about the greyhounds, but I was watching harness racing one night and this came on the screen:

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by davew

I was watching the 3rd at Gulfstream today and my screen froze for a couple seconds. When it started again, one of the front 3 horses was gone. There were 3 across in the lead, then one disappeared and I heard the announcer say that '4' threw the rider.

Where were you watching? I have been at tracks where I could see the closed circuit in-house TV and TVG at the same time. The TVG feed was showing the race a couple of seconds behind where the live feed was showing them.

Some tracks show the races on their web site. I have no idea if those are delayed.

[therussmeister]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Where were you watching? I have been at tracks where I could see the closed circuit in-house TV and TVG at the same time. The TVG feed was showing the race a couple of seconds behind where the live feed was showing them.

Some tracks show the races on their web site. I have no idea if those are delayed.

Web site feeds run by Roberts communications run 1-3 seconds delay on Windows devices but about 10 second delay on Android devices.

Magna tracks run 15-45 seconds delay and NYRA runs 10-15 seconds delay.

[Tom]

That is done to allow for the really late money to be fed into the pools.

[CNS]

In the transmission of any video, there is always a latency factor, i.e. how long it takes to get from the point of transmission to the final receiver whether via satellite or streaming. HD also has additional latency, which is why there can be differences between sets (digital and HD receivers) in your own home.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by CNS

In the transmission of any video, there is always a latency factor, i.e. how long it takes to get from the point of transmission to the final receiver whether via satellite or streaming. HD also has additional latency, which is why there can be differences between sets (digital and HD receivers) in your own home.

Yes!


You can see this on ordinary television, actually. It used to be you could, for instance, watch a basketball game and turn down your television set, instead listening to the local radio broadcast (which travels a short distance at the speed of light and is as close to instantaneous as you can get). Lakers fans used to do this all the time with Chick Hearn and network telecasts.


But try it now with an NBA, NFL, or baseball game. Most everything on television has been sent up to a satellite uplink, and it has all been digitized and converted to HD. Your radio broadcast will be way ahead of the television feed.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

Yes!


You can see this on ordinary television, actually. It used to be you could, for instance, watch a basketball game and turn down your television set, instead listening to the local radio broadcast (which travels a short distance at the speed of light and is as close to instantaneous as you can get). Lakers fans used to do this all the time with Chick Hearn and network telecasts.


But try it now with an NBA, NFL, or baseball game. Most everything on television has been sent up to a satellite uplink, and it has all been digitized and converted to HD. Your radio broadcast will be way ahead of the television feed.

Ditto all this.

Has no one watched the track feed on the computer while also having TVG on? The track feed runs a second or two ahead.

Go to the KEE auction and watch it on your phone and you'll see the horse has already left the ring after being sold while the video on your phone shows that horse only halfway through the bidding.

It's all just delays in signals reaching their final destination.

[lamboguy]

he shows up today in 4th race at Golden Gate of all places. i wonder what Larry Rivelli's batting average is in California, not that it really matters in this particular instance!

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

Ditto all this.

Has no one watched the track feed on the computer while also having TVG on? The track feed runs a second or two ahead.

TVG runs between a few seconds to a few minutes behind. Lots of time they wont even say its on tape delay.


Of course Betfair (their parent company) knows this as the are obligated by law to close the in play betting as soon as the first horse crosses the line.


Allan

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

TVG runs between a few seconds to a few minutes behind. Lots of time they wont even say its on tape delay.


Of course Betfair (their parent company) knows this as the are obligated by law to close the in play betting as soon as the first horse crosses the line.


Allan

You know how wrong that sounds?

[Thomas Roulston]

There are rules/laws concerning streaming.

Ever watch an NFL game via a facebook stream posted by a FB page or group?

The stream is always delayed by a few seconds; this can be verified by watching when a score by either team appears on their scoreboard vis-a-vis when you see the team score on the stream. This is how the page gets around the laws against streaming.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Where were you watching? I have been at tracks where I could see the closed circuit in-house TV and TVG at the same time. The TVG feed was showing the race a couple of seconds behind where the live feed was showing them.

Some tracks show the races on their web site. I have no idea if those are delayed.

I was watching on XpressBet - they still cut out on HO replay, which I understand.

[ultracapper]

Originally Posted by Thomas Roulston

There are rules/laws concerning streaming.

Ever watch an NFL game via a facebook stream posted by a FB page or group?

The stream is always delayed by a few seconds; this can be verified by watching when a score by either team appears on their scoreboard vis-a-vis when you see the team score on the stream. This is how the page gets around the laws against streaming.

I'll be watching the Seahawks on my computer in my office, and my kid will be in the family room watching TV. I'll scream when a big play is made. About 3 seconds later I'll hear him do the same thing.