Arizona-No more ADW's?

[theiman]

Someone who lives in Arizona got this notice from Expressbet

Dear Valued XpressBet Customer,

NEW STATE LAW BLOCKS ARIZONA WAGERING ACCOUNTS

A new Arizona state law (House Bill 2694), which goes into effect September 19, 2007, prohibits residents of that state from opening or maintaining account wagering services.

In compliance with this legislation, XpressBet is required to close your wagering account effective immediately. Your current account balance will be refunded by check within five to seven business days via U.S. mail.

XpressBet regrets having to take this action, thanks you for your patronage, and apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause our valued account holders.

Sincerely,

XpressBet

[prospector]

probably senator kyl at work...

stupid, if true...just takes people overseas and out of pools..

[DeanT]

Boy this is one screwed up business.

[Mil Mascaras]

Probably only applies to those that don't wager enough. There are different rules for everyone. No joke.

[Premier Turf Club]

HB 2694 – Chapter 189 – racing; pari-mutuel wagering
Classifies accepting a wager or betting on a race that is placed outside an Arizona authorized wagering facility as a Class 6 felony. Wagers made by a person in this state are assumed to have occurred within this state. Authorizes the Arizona Department of Racing and the Arizona Attorney General to enforce procedures for wagering at facilities that are not licensed by the Department of Racing.

As I understand it, pushed hard by the racetracks who feel ADWs are destroying their game. I think it's just another positive for the bookmakers.

[Hosshead]

That really sucks !! I wonder how many just on this (PA) board this will affect ?
There goes any horseplayer's chance of retiring to Ariz.
Snowbird Horseplayers will have to fly to some other state for the winter.

[prospector]

i'm still listed by xpressbet as living in arizona and didn't get a notice...Ian, i lived in paulden ariz...35 miles from prescott downs...or,no more than 200 feet from my computer...i hardly ever went to the track..

[prospector]

Originally Posted by Hosshead

That really sucks !! I wonder how many just on this (PA) board this will affect ?
There goes any horseplayer's chance of retiring to Ariz.
Snowbird Horseplayers will have to fly to some other state for the winter.

you got that right...i was 1 year away from going to bullhead city, across from laughlin,nv....now, instead of buying a home in arizona, i'll buy a new rv and park it for the winter in laughlin and keep this address...see how everything is affected by these stupid laws...

[Premier Turf Club]

Originally Posted by prospector

i'm still listed by xpressbet as living in arizona and didn't get a notice...Ian, i lived in paulden ariz...35 miles from prescott downs...or,no more than 200 feet from my computer...i hardly ever went to the track..

You don't have to convince me. There are just a number of horsemen's groups (more than you'd think) that believe that ADWs are the reason people stopped going to the track, and that simply eliminating account wagering will bring them all back.

I think the poll I put up about a month ago proved otherwise.

[Turntime]

Ian, how does this affect PTC members who live in AZ?

[Premier Turf Club]

I'm not sure yet. Please contact me privately to discuss.

[prospector]

Originally Posted by Premier Turf Club

You don't have to convince me. There are just a number of horsemen's groups (more than you'd think) that believe that ADWs are the reason people stopped going to the track, and that simply eliminating account wagering will bring them all back.

I think the poll I put up about a month ago proved otherwise.

they just don't think it thru...if i didn't go 70 miles round trip at gas $1.10 then..i sure as hell wouldn't go at $3/gal...besides less than 2 miles from the current track are rich gold deposits in all the creeks around there...big bug creeks for those of you who still live around there...i'd go prospecting before i'd go to to the track...

[Tom]

So, are all Arizona tracks on permenant boycott now?

[Steve 'StatMan']

Dang. I was going to go visit family in AZ this winter. Maybe make it to TuP for a day - long trip from where they live. Don't want to drive across the greater Phoenix area every day to get to the track to place a bet on a simulcast. They may have OTB's - aren't they located in some bars and restaurants?

[Indulto]

Originally Posted by Premier Turf Club

You don't have to convince me. There are just a number of horsemen's groups (more than you'd think) that believe that ADWs are the reason people stopped going to the track, and that simply eliminating account wagering will bring them all back.

I think the poll I put up about a month ago proved otherwise.

They are right about the first part. Starting with NYCOTB, people stopped going to the track as soon as it was legal to bet off-track. It may have been possible to bring back many before the internet, but now -- especially with on-demand replay's -- they'll never get that genie back in the bottle. Plus the reduced handle would probably close many tracks.

The horsemen are indeed the key to the ADW solution. The currently horseman-heavy CHRB still believes attendance is salvageable which is why IMO they let TVG off the licensing hook last time after listening to Quick-Drew Magoo.

Well, now that Relato Del Gato has left the state, I guess it's OK for me to stop scanning the TUP entries.