At what point do they equal Nazi Germany?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Clocker

There you go, insulting people on the basis of ancient teachings of some religious cult.

I've known a lot of people in my life, but few if any truly evil. A lot of them were stupid and prejudiced, but not evil.

They are not evil in your sight because of your definition of evil., which is not the biblical definition You measure evil by your own personal standard of goodness.

And no insult was intended. Just stating the biblical facts, m'am.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by boxcar

They are not evil in your sight because of your definition of evil., which is not the biblical definition You measure evil by your own personal standard of goodness.

And no insult was intended. Just stating the biblical facts, m'am.

I don't speak biblical, I speak English. And 'biblical facts' is an oxymoron.

[MONEY]

Originally Posted by boxcar

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No I didn't. Eccl 9:3 is not a qualified statement! Do you know the difference between a qualified and non-qualified statement.? The sentence starts off with, "Furthermore, the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil...". The text doesn't say some of the sons of men or many of the sons of men. Therefore, logically we can only interpret that the writer meant all the sons of men. He meant for the "sons of men" to be taken in the universal sense, not the limited sense. Moreover, as pointed out previously this interpretation harmonizes with many other relevant portions of scripture.

Secondly, even the last part of this verse confirms that the proper interpretation should be in the universal sense. The very last part reads:"...Afterwards they go to the dead". First, the "they" can only be referring back to the "sons of men". Secondly, as far as I know all men die (there being only three explicitly biblical exceptions -- two of which have occurred and one that hasn't yet). If the "sons of men" is interpreted in the limited sense, then to be consistent the "they" must also be taken strictly in the limited sense -- which would be an absurd interpretation.



All born again Christians are excluded because they have been made partakers of the divine nature by virtue of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
There are only two kinds of people, spiritually speaking, in this world, sir: Saints and Sinners. Which are you, sir?

Here is the part that you left out.

It is the same for all. There is one fate for the righteous and for the wicked; for the good, for the clean and for the unclean; for the man who offers a sacrifice and for the one who does not sacrifice. As the good man is, so is the sinner; as the swearer is, so is the one who is afraid to swear.

I am a sinner and whether you like it or not, so are you.

I'm done.

[davew]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Obama is a radicalized Muslim. End of story.

I wonder if he will strap on a bomb vest and take out his cabinet....

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by boxcar

You see what I mean...there you go calling evil good -- beginning with yourself. But...if it makes you fell any better, this is virutally a universal practice among men. So you see...it's really a wee bit hypocritical for anyone to point fingers at world leaders for doing the same thing the vast majority of us do.

I have no idea where you get that all men are evil. All being sinners isn't the same thing by a longshot.

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Clocker

There you go, insulting people on the basis of ancient teachings of some religious cult.

I've known a lot of people in my life, but few if any truly evil. A lot of them were stupid and prejudiced, but not evil.

That's insulting to call the belief in God a religious cult.

I agree though that most aren't evil.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Fager Fan

I have no idea where you get that all men are evil. All being sinners isn't the same thing by a longshot.

If only God alone is good, according to Jesus, then what does that make mankind? Was not Jesus making a statement about God's nature? If so, then he must also be making an implicit statement about man's nature.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by MONEY

Here is the part that you left out.



I am a sinner and whether you like it or not, so are you.

I'm done.

Yes...but one big difference between you and me is that I'm a forgiven sinner, which makes me a saint.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

No saints exist -- anywhere. We are all flawed. No exception to the rule.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown

No saints exist -- anywhere. We are all flawed. No exception to the rule.

This is a half truth. Don't you know that Christ came into the world to save sinners? And saved sinners are his saints.

[barn32]

There is a reason I have never opened up the religious thead and this is it.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by barn32

There is a reason I have never opened up the religious thead and this is it.

I am not interested in changing anyone's beliefs about religion, but I am interested in human behavior.

I made a post on PA a few days ago about the three kinds of "beliefs".

1.) There are "opinions" which are like tables with 3 legs -- not very stable and easily changed.

2.) There are "beliefs" which are like tables with 4 legs -- much stronger than opinions and not easily changed.

and

3.) There are "convictions". These are like tables made from blocks of granite. There is almost no way to change a person's convictions. Some people's convictions are so strong they would rather die than change their convictions.

You can argue with Boxcar about Christianity until you are blue in the face and you will not change his convictions toward Christianity. Just like you are not going to change the religious beliefs and convictions of an Islamic imam, a Jewish rabbi, a Catholic priest, or a Baptist preacher, etc.

All "beliefs" are true to the believer. Those same beliefs might not be true for anyone else, but they are true to the believer. So if you're going to believe something, at least make sure it is useful.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by highnote

I am not interested in changing anyone's beliefs about religion, but I am interested in human behavior.

I made a post on PA a few days ago about the three kinds of "beliefs".

1.) There are "opinions" which are like tables with 3 legs -- not very stable and easily changed.

2.) There are "beliefs" which are like tables with 4 legs -- much stronger than opinions and not easily changed.

and

3.) There are "convictions". These are like tables made from blocks of granite. There is almost no way to change a person's convictions. Some people's convictions are so strong they would rather die than change their convictions.

You can argue with Boxcar about Christianity until you are blue in the face and you will not change his convictions toward Christianity. Just like you are not going to change the religious beliefs and convictions of an Islamic imam, a Jewish rabbi, a Catholic priest, or a Baptist preacher, etc.

All "beliefs" are true to the believer. Those same beliefs might not be true for anyone else, but they are true to the believer. So if you're going to believe something, at least make sure it is useful.

This is not true. It's not because everything is possible with God. He can change even the most hardened convictions! The Apostle Paul's conversion is a great biblical example.

[highnote]

Originally Posted by boxcar

This is not true. It's not because everything is possible with God. He can change even the most hardened convictions! The Apostle Paul's conversion is a great biblical example.

See. Told ya.

[JustRalph]

http://nypost.com/2016/06/07/yazidi-...ium=SocialFlow

This happen on ground our soldiers took over ten years ago.

Yet we relinquished it back to ISIS when Barry O pulled our Troops.

We lack the will or bravery our forefathers possessed. We are fools......