Robert Wagner

[Valuist]

Have to think he's at least a person of interest in this....sounds like foul play involved:

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs...095255169.html

[DJofSD]

What's the date that the screams were first reported? Last week or 30 years ago?

If she actually reported hearing those screams about the same timeframe of the death, that is one thing. But if she is just now coming forward with a story about hearing those screams and this is the first time she's shared this information, it is highly suspect.

The police must have some additional hard information that is not yet shared with the public.

[FantasticDan]

Um, yeah, when there's three people on a boat in the ocean (four including the captain), and everyone's loaded, and one ends up overboard in the middle of the night, the others would certainly be questioned.

As for the captain's change of tune 30 yrs later - he's selling a book. Mission accomplished!

Edit: What difference does the woman hearing the "help me, I'm drowning" screams make? Whether she slipped or was dumped, wouldn't she be yelling the same thing?

[DJofSD]

There are too many details not available to be able to say anything about the circumstances of the screams.

[Valuist]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Um, yeah, when there's three people on a boat in the ocean (four including the captain), and everyone's loaded, and one ends up overboard in the middle of the night, the others would certainly be questioned.

As for the captain's change of tune 30 yrs later - he's selling a book. Mission accomplished!

Edit: What difference does the woman hearing the "help me, I'm drowning" screams make? Whether she slipped or was dumped, wouldn't she be yelling the same thing?

If she hit her head, like Wagner claims, before she hit the water, she might not have been able to scream.

[lamboguy]

instead of chasing down alqaeda, they are going to make the lawyers rich.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Um, yeah, when there's three people on a boat in the ocean (four including the captain), and everyone's loaded, and one ends up overboard in the middle of the night, the others would certainly be questioned.

As for the captain's change of tune 30 yrs later - he's selling a book. Mission accomplished!

Edit: What difference does the woman hearing the "help me, I'm drowning" screams make? Whether she slipped or was dumped, wouldn't she be yelling the same thing?

bingo! All good points.
Once I see a book promotion that tells me everything I need to know.

[GameTheory]

People who are actually drowning don't make a sound -- they are sort of paralyzed (remember that when around children in water). If someone is thrashing around and screaming, they are still "swimming" at that point. Not that it matters too much to this story, as apparently Natalie Wood was afraid of water and surely would have been freaking out when she fell over (if she was conscious).

[bigmack]

There are 41 unsolved homicides per square mile in South L.A., and they need to dredge-up this 3 decades old case

It's been my experience, you get a boatload of booze with one couple and one friend, something odd is going to happen.

On a side note, I dug that last movie they made; Brainstorm.

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[toetoe]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Edit: What difference does the woman hearing the "help me, I'm drowning" screams make? Whether she slipped or was dumped, wouldn't she be yelling the same thing?

Not necessarily. (:Monty Python voice.)

Remember the one remotely funny Tom Smothers bit ? He fell into a vat of chocolate. He yelled, "FIRE !" Why ? No one would respond to "CHOCOLATE !"

[toetoe]

Originally Posted by bigmack

...you get a boatload of booze with one couple and one friend ... Brainstorm.

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Don't forget the helmsman, little buddy. Any footage of 'Bob 'n' Carol 'n' Bruce 'n' Skipper' ?

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by toetoe

Don't forget the helmsman, little buddy. Any footage of 'Bob 'n' Carol 'n' Bruce 'n' Skipper' ?

TCM just air B & C & T & A this last weekend.

[The Judge]

I remember a big deal being made around that time about someone drowning under similar circumstances on the same type of boat. It was blamed on the exhaust from the boat itself.

It had to do with the placement of the swim platform/ ladder, to close to the exhaust, so when the swimmer came up to get on the platform they breathed the exhaust if the boat motor was on causing them to become unconscious and drown.

I don't remember if this happened in the Wood incident or if it was a different happening all together.

This is from Wikipedia:

Carbon monoxide
In the early 2000s, several high-profile deaths due to carbon monoxide poisoning (CO) led to increased scrutiny of boating habits (especially the practice of towing participants immediately behind a boat, known as "teak surfing" or "platform towing") and the implementation of various warning placards to educate boaters of the hazards arising from these activities. Other CO-related deaths were attributed to high concentrations of CO gas from houseboat generator exhaust, where swimmers were able to access an area near the stern of the boats that collected the exhaust. This has led to improved pollution controls on modern generator sets, and changes in the designs of houseboats so that they discharge exhaust gases in a way that they can dissipate. The increased use of CO detectors, especially in boats with enclosed accommodation spaces, and a proper assessment of boat manufacturers, would help reduce the risk of CO poisonin

[davew]

still working on this 38 year old case - Wagner is a 'person of interest'

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...164156128.html

[thaskalos]

They better hurry. Wagner is 87 years old.