Tdn Monday - 2/5 Pays 12.80

[cj]

Sounds like pool manipulation to me. Probably a large amount bet offshore on the winner or something.

[tzipi]

If it's a profitable tactic though, I wonder why we haven't seeing more of this?

[Marlin]

Originally Posted by tzipi

If it's a profitable tactic though, I wonder why we haven't seeing more of this?

It's probably difficult to get paid. And that might be the least of your problems if bet through "rough" people.

[speed]

Originally Posted by cj

Sounds like pool manipulation to me. Probably a large amount bet offshore on the winner or something.

Think about it, there is zero chance anybody is taking $20,000 win bets at Thisledowns or any small time track and holding the action.

[cj]

Originally Posted by speed

Think about it, there is zero chance anybody is taking $20,000 win bets at Thisledowns or any small time track and holding the action.

Of course nobody is taking 20,000. But how about a whole bunch of off shore books taking $100 or $200. There are hundreds of books out there. I'm sure some of them talk, but who would talk about a couple $200 bets at Tdn on a 1 to 5 shot. Now, after the race, that is a different story. There is no chance that anybody trying this will ever get paid, and they won't have an account any longer either.

Clearly something weird happened. I don't know what it was of course, but the above is possible for sure.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by speed

Think about it, there is zero chance anybody is taking $20,000 win bets at Thisledowns or any small time track and holding the action.

But I bet there are at least 20 offshore books who will each take 1,000 bets. Anyone who thinks this was not done on purpose is INCREDIBLY naive.

[speed]

Originally Posted by cj

Of course nobody is taking 20,000. But how about a whole bunch of off shore books taking $100 or $200. There are hundreds of books out there. I'm sure some of them talk, but who would talk about a couple $200 bets at Tdn on a 1 to 5 shot. Now, after the race, that is a different story. There is no chance that anybody trying this will ever get paid, and they won't have an account any longer either.

Clearly something weird happened. I don't know what it was of course, but the above is possible for sure.

Agreed

[cj]

Originally Posted by Tread

But I bet there are at least 20 offshore books who will each take 1,000 bets. Anyone who thinks this was not done on purpose is INCREDIBLY naive.

You won't find one book that will take $1,000 on a Thistledown race, let alone 20.

[speed]

Originally Posted by cj

You won't find one book that will take $1,000 on a Thistledown race, let alone 20.

Was typing same but was laughing so hard i closed my browser on accident and lost the post. So much for multi tasking

[Maximillion]

Strange thing....... if the "goal" was to make each horse 5-1(which was nearly accomplished) the 15k win bet on any horse winning? 90k

[Tread]

Originally Posted by cj

You won't find one book that will take $1,000 on a Thistledown race, let alone 20.

You made the same point I was trying to make above, perhaps $1000 is too big a number, but even with payouts capped at 5k for a minor track, if you have enough determination to make it work, it is there for the taking.

And luckily for them, it seems the vast majority of the betting public appear to be simpletons who dismiss this as an accident or computer error.

[BombsAway Bob]

Originally Posted by Tread

You made the same point I was trying to make above, perhaps $1000 is too big a number, but even with payouts capped at 5k for a minor track, if you have enough determination to make it work, it is there for the taking.

And luckily for them, it seems the vast majority of the betting public appear to be simpletons who dismiss this as an accident or computer error.

i'm guessing automated Computer Program error, maybe where Big Fave was supposed to trigger $200.00 Win bets
but the decimal didn't register. Note Show pool triggered $2,000.00 show bets on entire field v. fave.
perhaps they were intended to be $20.00 automated show bets.

[BuddyOscar]

Similar things have been going on at several greyhound tracks for the past year. Typically only several hundred bet on each dog creating the 9/2 odds on almost every dog. However I witnessed one recently where they threw over 23,000 total into one race win pool back on April 2. Same type of deal where a "sure thing" is driven up in price from 1/2 or less to 5-1 or more.

[Shemp Howard]

Sounds like the Licavoli mob is still operating at TND.

[Some_One]

Any chance this is some sort of money launder?