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Old 06-28-2022, 01:42 AM   #1
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Heart inflammation 44 times more likely

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/06/27/...e-study-finds/

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Old 06-28-2022, 12:57 PM   #2
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Yeah, but it's still safe and effective. AND...AND...we always have to remember the UNTOLD number of lives that were saved by taking the jabs.
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I think most people know by now... but I'd really like to see the CDC, FDA, and the Press do the right thing and report the truth.


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Our study has several limitations. First, the National Health Data System provides little clinical and no laboratory information concerning cases. The cases included in this study were identified solely on the basis of the diagnosis codes associated with hospital admissions. We therefore could not detect asymptomatic or mild forms of myocarditis and pericarditis that would not require hospitalization.
Meaning, National Health Data System doesn't want people knowing about this?

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Old 06-28-2022, 01:25 PM   #6
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We therefore could not detect asymptomatic or mild forms of myocarditis and pericarditis that would not require hospitalization.
I've been screaming about this from day 1. I had multiple arguments with good friends of mine that were very pro vax, booster etc... late last year and until recently that even if the reported cases weren't a very high number, there had to be people out there with severe cases that didn't seek help that died (no autopsy) and people with mild cases that we don't even know about because the person had no serious symptoms or they were mild and went away quickly. That does not mean damage wasn't done, even if it was mild.
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and here I thought only CHIROPRACTORS were the most common quacks we run into on a daily basis
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and here I thought only CHIROPRACTORS were the most common quacks we run into on a daily basis

The most common quacks would be retired podiatrists.
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and here I thought only CHIROPRACTORS were the most common quacks we run into on a daily basis
Take it up with Nature magazine. Pretty respected publication last I looked.
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The older of the two studies mentioned in the article in the original post at the top of this thread:

JAMA Cardiology | April 20, 2022
SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination and Myocarditis in a Nordic Cohort Study of 23 Million Residents:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2791253

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Abstract

Importance Reports of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccination have emerged.

Objective To evaluate the risks of myocarditis and pericarditis following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination by vaccine product, vaccination dose number, sex, and age.

Design, Setting, and Participants Four cohort studies were conducted according to a common protocol, and the results were combined using meta-analysis. Participants were 23 122 522 residents aged 12 years or older. They were followed up from December 27, 2020, until incident myocarditis or pericarditis, censoring, or study end (October 5, 2021). Data on SARS-CoV-2 vaccinations, hospital diagnoses of myocarditis or pericarditis, and covariates for the participants were obtained from linked nationwide health registers in Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden.

Exposures The 28-day risk periods after administration date of the first and second doses of a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, including BNT162b2, mRNA-1273, and AZD1222 or combinations thereof. A homologous schedule was defined as receiving the same vaccine type for doses 1 and 2.

Main Outcomes and Measures Incident outcome events were defined as the date of first inpatient hospital admission based on primary or secondary discharge diagnosis for myocarditis or pericarditis from December 27, 2020, onward. Secondary outcome was myocarditis or pericarditis combined from either inpatient or outpatient hospital care. Poisson regression yielded adjusted incidence rate ratios (IRRs) and excess rates with 95% CIs, comparing rates of myocarditis or pericarditis in the 28-day period following vaccination with rates among unvaccinated individuals.

Results Among 23 122 522 Nordic residents (81% vaccinated by study end; 50.2% female), 1077 incident myocarditis events and 1149 incident pericarditis events were identified. Within the 28-day period, for males and females 12 years or older combined who received a homologous schedule, the second dose was associated with higher risk of myocarditis, with adjusted IRRs of 1.75 (95% CI, 1.43-2.14) for BNT162b2 and 6.57 (95% CI, 4.64-9.28) for mRNA-1273. Among males 16 to 24 years of age, adjusted IRRs were 5.31 (95% CI, 3.68-7.68) for a second dose of BNT162b2 and 13.83 (95% CI, 8.08-23.68) for a second dose of mRNA-1273, and numbers of excess events were 5.55 (95% CI, 3.70-7.39) events per 100 000 vaccinees after the second dose of BNT162b2 and 18.39 (9.05-27.72) events per 100 000 vaccinees after the second dose of mRNA-1273. Estimates for pericarditis were similar.

Conclusions and Relevance Results of this large cohort study indicated that both first and second doses of mRNA vaccines were associated with increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis. For individuals receiving 2 doses of the same vaccine, risk of myocarditis was highest among young males (aged 16-24 years) after the second dose. These findings are compatible with between 4 and 7 excess events in 28 days per 100 000 vaccinees after BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 excess events per 100 000 vaccinees after mRNA-1273. This risk should be balanced against the benefits of protecting against severe COVID-19 disease.

Last week, the director general of the Danish Health Authority Søren Brostrøm was asked if it was a mistake to vaccinate children.

Link to an article from the Danish Press here:
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2022-...Anews%3A%3A%3A

Fyi, after hitting the green accept cookies button (the text is in Danish) my browser navigated to the article about the interview (also in Danish.)

From there I cut and pasted Danish text from the article into Google's Translate Page.

The Danish text from the article about whether or not it was a mistake to vaccinate children translates to English as follows:

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When Søren Brostrøm hosted 'Go' evening Live 'on TV 2 on Wednesday night, he was asked if it was a mistake to vaccinate children.

- With what we know today: yes. With what we knew then: no, was the answer.
Strange the director general of the Danish Health Authority would say that.



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Old 06-29-2022, 12:20 AM   #11
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The older of the two studies mentioned in the article in the original post at the top of this thread:

JAMA Cardiology | April 20, 2022
SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination and Myocarditis in a Nordic Cohort Study of 23 Million Residents:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2791253






Last week, the director general of the Danish Health Authority Søren Brostrøm was asked if it was a mistake to vaccinate children.

Link to an article from the Danish Press here:
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2022-...Anews%3A%3A%3A

Fyi, after hitting the green accept cookies button (the text is in Danish) my browser navigated to the article about the interview (also in Danish.)

From there I cut and pasted Danish text from the article into Google's Translate Page.

The Danish text from the article about whether or not it was a mistake to vaccinate children translates to English as follows:



Strange the director general of the Danish Health Authority would say that.



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According to your study, one out of every 10,400 vaccinated persons will develop either myocarditis or pericarditis. Less than one hundredth of one percent.

Myocarditis and Pericarditis are caused by a viral infection. Covid is a viral infection. In fact a person with Covid 19 is 16 times more likely to develop Myocarditis than some one who is not infected. And, there are a helluva lot of other ways a person with Covid can die.

The truth is, cases of myocarditis and Pericarditis associated with Covid vaccines are usually mild, short lived and result in no permanent damage.
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Maybe you should reach out to the Director General of the Danish Health Authority and set him straight.

Surely he was mistaken when he said vaccinating children was a mistake based on what we know now (as a result of the newer studies.)



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Fauci Experiences Covid Rebound Covid

By Paul Farrell For Dailymail.Com | Updated: 22:52 EDT, 28 June 2022
Anthony Fauci says that he's experienced rebound Covid symptoms after taking a Pfizer's antiviral Paxlovid - which studies now show is NOT effective for people who are vaccinated:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-course.html

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• Dr. Anthony Fauci said that he's on his second course of Paxlovid after testing positive again for Covid-19

• According to Pfizer's own data, the drug is limited in its abilities to fight Covid-19 in a vaccinated person

• The CDC issued a warning about the potential for Covid-19 rebound symptoms after taking Paxlovid in May 2022

• The warning noted that none of the reported rebound cases saw patients suffer a severe case of Covid-19, though Fauci described his symptoms as 'much worse'

• A UC San Diego study found that patients who were experiencing Covid rebound symptoms suffered because Paxlovid did not get to enough infected cells

• At the same conference where he announced the rebound, Fauci called for an 'aggressive' national vaccine campaign
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Dr. Anthony Fauci confirmed on Tuesday that he is suffering from 'Covid rebound' symptoms after being treated with Paxlovid.

Paxlovid, a drug that was anointed as America's silver bullet against COVID-19 by some health officials and even President Joe Biden, may not have any effectiveness for people that are already vaccinated, according its manufacturer Pfizer's own data.

Fauci, 81, broke the news while speaking remotely at the Foreign Policy Global Health Forum.

Earlier this month, Fauci tested positive for the virus with mild symptoms including fatigue. As his symptoms got slightly worse, Fauci began a five day course of Paxlovid.

Following that course, Fauci said that he tested negative for the virus three days in a row. He decided to test again on the fourth day. The result came back positive.

In May, the Centers for Disease Control issued a formal warning regarding a Covid-19 rebound as result of a course of Paxlovid.

The agency said that some patients who were prescribed Paxlovid suffered a recurrence of symptoms or tested positive for Covid between two and eight days after recovery.

The CDC announcement said that there was not enough data to make a conclusion on the cause for the rebound. The agency noted that none of the reported rebound cases saw patients suffer a severe recurrence.

In his announcement about his Covid rebound, Fauci said that his symptoms were 'much worse' after he tested positive for the second time.

According to a June 22 University of California San Diego School of Medicine study, Covid-19 rebound symptoms after a course of Paxlovid are caused because not enough of the drug was getting to infected cells to stop all viral replication.

The study refers to this as a lack of exposure to the drug.

The day after that study was published, Pfizer published its Phase 2/3 Paxlovid trial data.

The data analyzed Paxlovid's ability to prevent hospitalization or death depending on a person's vaccination status and individual risk profile.

It found that a fully vaccinated person with little personal risk had little to gain from using the drug.


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By Paul Farrell For Dailymail.Com | Updated: 22:52 EDT, 28 June 2022
Anthony Fauci says that he's experienced rebound Covid symptoms after taking a Pfizer's antiviral Paxlovid - which studies now show is NOT effective for people who are vaccinated:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-course.html






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Fauci, the 'expert' of all covid experts.

I find it shocking people blindly believe in a guy who changes his mind every time the wind blows a different direction. I always wondered how he used to come up with his daily Covid protocol. Was he using a magic 8 ball, Ouija board, or throwing darts? Face it, there is no such thing as a Covid expert.
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