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01-16-2015, 06:43 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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NYRA "safety steps"
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01-16-2015, 07:02 PM
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Wow. Gonna have to digest these for a bit.
Thanks for posting.
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01-16-2015, 07:04 PM
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wow, no races again in less than 14 days
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01-16-2015, 07:12 PM
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Yes, these are some great things. I love the idea that you can't race back in 14 days or less.
They can also consider adding to that beaten lengths list horses who are dropping alarmingly far in class. Maybe have some type of scale that you only drop a recent claim so far within certain time frames...sort of like reverse jail.
Great stuff though by them, hats off no doubt.
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01-16-2015, 07:17 PM
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I don't understand what their rational for not allowing starts of fourteen days or less. Hell the NYRA might as well just have one of their people train all the horses on the grounds 
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01-16-2015, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I don't understand what their rational for not allowing starts of fourteen days or less. Hell the NYRA might as well just have one of their people train all the horses on the grounds |
I think the theory behind it is that they don't want horses rushed back to earn purse money unless they're rested and ready. While not all horses need to wait that long to race, some do, so this rule is for them.
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 01-16-2015 at 07:59 PM.
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01-16-2015, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I don't understand what their rational for not allowing starts of fourteen days or less. Hell the NYRA might as well just have one of their people train all the horses on the grounds |
I can see it off of "bad" performances, but not good ones. We just need to determine what is a "bad" performance. Certainly not just being beaten 25 lengths.
Question for Chad, what horse can't work in 53 seconds for a half mile, even if sore?
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01-16-2015, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I can see it off of "bad" performances, but not good ones. We just need to determine what is a "bad" performance. Certainly not just being beaten 25 lengths.
Question for Chad, what horse can't work in 53 seconds for a half mile, even if sore?
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Reading my mind. One step further. What happens when that low performing jock is 20 back in the stretch on a horse that is obviously not right, and he damn sure doesn't want to finish 25 behind? Where does his mind go? Ease? Go to the whip?
There has to be a better way to determine a poor performance.
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01-16-2015, 07:43 PM
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Curious,exactly how many horses have come back in 14 day's or less and how did they do ?
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01-16-2015, 07:44 PM
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I love the limit on Maiden Claimers. A trainer with a $12.5K horse that is suddenly running at $16K is certainly going to treat it a lot better. 
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01-16-2015, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I can see it off of "bad" performances, but not good ones. We just need to determine what is a "bad" performance. Certainly not just being beaten 25 lengths.
Question for Chad, what horse can't work in 53 seconds for a half mile, even if sore?
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A bad performance was the favorite in the first race today.
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01-16-2015, 08:01 PM
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PA Steward
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Something in me hates all this crap...why has this game changed so much from when I first started out in it?
I used to think it was me...I was changing...getting older...whatever...
But now I know, the game has changed, and definitely not for the better or the bettor...
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01-16-2015, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Something in me hates all this crap...why has this game changed so much from when I first started out in it?
I used to think it was me...I was changing...getting older...whatever...
But now I know, the game has changed, and definitely not for the better or the bettor...
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You don't like the new rules? Seems like they're a good thing.
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01-16-2015, 08:13 PM
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This 14 day between starts rule is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Put the onus on the Owner, Trainer and the Vets to make sure the horse is ready to race.
Lots of trainers have excellent records with starts between 7-14 Days on the Inner over the past few years (Gary Gullo, Patrick Kelly, Eddie Keneally, Tom Morley to name a few).
Show me the stats that show racing within 14 days causes breakdowns.
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01-16-2015, 08:20 PM
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are these rules just for Aqueduct or for all 3 tracks?
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