After 35 Years training, Sandino Hernandez has found what works?

[moneyandland]

The guy was 1 for 50 just about every year since 1980, now hes batting 40% at Tampa... Nothing suspicious here lol

[Stillriledup]

The light went on.

This guy had 17 starters combined in 1989 and 1991 and earned ZERO dollars in purse money. Not one of those starters made even 80 bucks to finish 9th? Zero dollars? How is that possible....unless they only paid out thru 5th and these paying all starters stuff is just a recent development.

17 starters in 1989 and 1991 combined and 0 dollars in purses.

Zero.

[castaway01]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

The light went on.

This guy had 17 starters combined in 1989 and 1991 and earned ZERO dollars in purse money. Not one of those starters made even 80 bucks to finish 9th? Zero dollars? How is that possible....unless they only paid out thru 5th and these paying all starters stuff is just a recent development.

17 starters in 1989 and 1991 combined and 0 dollars in purses.

Zero.

I know you're just quoting Equibase, but unless Sandino Hernandez was training as a teenager, those stats were for his father, who used to train in New York. Hernandez the son became a trainer in 1998 and is in his early 40s.

Hernandez Trainer of the Month

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by castaway01

I know you're just quoting Equibase, but unless Sandino Hernandez was training as a teenager, those stats were for his father, who used to train in New York. Hernandez the son became a trainer in 1998 and is in his early 40s.

Hernandez Trainer of the Month

Went to Equibase, put Hernandez in the search, only one Sandino Hernandez comes up with a recent starter at Tampa...so according to equibase, there's only one Sandino Hernandez....listed as Jr. The stats i had are listed under Sandino Jr

[moneyandland]

Originally Posted by castaway01

I know you're just quoting Equibase, but unless Sandino Hernandez was training as a teenager, those stats were for his father, who used to train in New York. Hernandez the son became a trainer in 1998 and is in his early 40s.

Hernandez Trainer of the Month

I've been following NYRA racing since early 90's and he's been an auto toss

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/hern...making-most-it

So let's just for fun sake say it was 1998, that's still 17 years before he figured out how to put the bridle on one right? All over night because he got a chance to train for a friend? He doubled his win totals since 1998 in 3 months, raised his 8% lifetime win % by 5x's that to 40%

It's a hell of a story, almost as good as Michelle "Instanst Success Has nothing to do with the absence of Richard Dutrow" Nevin

[horses4courses]

Somebody must have recommended a highly lucrative
retirement plan. What better way to hide "live" horses
than have them listed under a 1% trainer?

Cha ching......

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Somebody must have recommended a highly lucrative
retirement plan. What better way to hide "live" horses
than have them listed under a 1% trainer?

Cha ching......

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...light=thompson

[Shemp Howard]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Somebody must have recommended a highly lucrative
retirement plan. What better way to hide "live" horses
than have them listed under a 1% trainer?

Cha ching......

His motto is "you only live once", right?

[Robert Fischer]

somebody is giving him 'smart drugs'

[SaratogaSteve]

Originally Posted by moneyandland

The guy was 1 for 50 just about every year since 1980, now hes batting 40% at Tampa... Nothing suspicious here lol

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

The light went on.

This guy had 17 starters combined in 1989 and 1991 and earned ZERO dollars in purse money. Not one of those starters made even 80 bucks to finish 9th? Zero dollars? How is that possible....unless they only paid out thru 5th and these paying all starters stuff is just a recent development.

17 starters in 1989 and 1991 combined and 0 dollars in purses.

Zero.

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Went to Equibase, put Hernandez in the search, only one Sandino Hernandez comes up with a recent starter at Tampa...so according to equibase, there's only one Sandino Hernandez....listed as Jr. The stats i had are listed under Sandino Jr

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

somebody is giving him 'smart drugs'

The whole lot of you here should be banned or put on break for awhile. At a minimum, clearly tagged as "totally clueless" for all to see...

from the article...

http://www.tampabaydowns.com/racing/...levate-profile

"“I’ve got an opportunity here where I have some nice horses and they all try, and that’s what counts,” said Hernandez, who eked out a living on the New York circuit for years after going out on his own in 1998.

“Training in New York is very difficult. If you don’t have the right owners to give you the right horses, it’s an uphill battle. A lot of the big-name trainers have the majority of good horses, and if you have a good (claiming) horse, there is a good chance it will be claimed. It’s hard to make a name for yourself.”

Sandino has two sons, 11-year-old Brian and 2-year-old Alex, who currently live with his girlfriend Crystal, their mom, in south Florida.

His father, Panamanian Sandino Hernandez, rode and trained for many years and exercised horses for his son into his 60s until suffering a stroke in 2001. He still lives in New York."


So I guess we shoot first, aim later. This is Hernandez's son, not even the same guy! Yet, his success must be due to drugs, etc....

You guys should go be a fan of some other sport, if you're not going to do the basic research, or have the basic knowledge, of what is going on around you.

Even when the basic research is done, it's done wrong...cherrypicking data to support your claims... the full "Sandino Hernandez Jr." record from Equibase...

2015 20 8 4 3 $101,443
2014 71 16 11 11 $293,411
2013 8 0 0 2 $9,359
2012 31 2 4 2 $108,505
2011 42 6 1 6 $150,168
2010 59 4 4 9 $135,632
2005 1 0 0 0 $80
2004 27 1 1 2 $19,826
2003 20 1 2 3 $35,500
2002 49 3 5 2 $123,865
2001 49 7 10 4 $218,395
2000 13 2 0 1 $62,650
1999 12 1 1 1 $48,460
1998 9 0 0 0 $1,500
1997 19 0 3 3 $19,050
1996 39 2 2 3 $32,800
1995 44 3 1 6 $42,200
1994 59 9 7 4 $194,608
1993 77 12 12 7 $249,043
1991 10 0 0 0 $0
1990 17 0 0 2 $10,260
1989 7 0 0 0 $0
1988 97 4 6 7 $99,070
1987 79 6 10 11 $132,295
1986 52 6 6 7 $86,080
1985 16 1 1 1 $14,120
1984 65 11 9 10 $167,880
1983 2 1 0 1 $11,880
1981 4 0 0 2 $2,880

Anyone with half a clue can determine with the stats, the story, and some basic background of NYRA who this fellow is, and why there's a gap in results around 1998....

Disgusting that you participate here, and pass yourselves off as fans of the game.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by SaratogaSteve

The whole lot of you here should be banned or put on break for awhile. At a minimum, clearly tagged as "totally clueless" for all to see...

from the article...

http://www.tampabaydowns.com/racing/...levate-profile

"“I’ve got an opportunity here where I have some nice horses and they all try, and that’s what counts,” said Hernandez, who eked out a living on the New York circuit for years after going out on his own in 1998.

“Training in New York is very difficult. If you don’t have the right owners to give you the right horses, it’s an uphill battle. A lot of the big-name trainers have the majority of good horses, and if you have a good (claiming) horse, there is a good chance it will be claimed. It’s hard to make a name for yourself.”

Sandino has two sons, 11-year-old Brian and 2-year-old Alex, who currently live with his girlfriend Crystal, their mom, in south Florida.

His father, Panamanian Sandino Hernandez, rode and trained for many years and exercised horses for his son into his 60s until suffering a stroke in 2001. He still lives in New York."


So I guess we shoot first, aim later. This is Hernandez's son, not even the same guy! Yet, his success must be due to drugs, etc....

You guys should go be a fan of some other sport, if you're not going to do the basic research, or have the basic knowledge, of what is going on around you.

Even when the basic research is done, it's done wrong...cherrypicking data to support your claims... the full "Sandino Hernandez Jr." record from Equibase...

2015 20 8 4 3 $101,443
2014 71 16 11 11 $293,411
2013 8 0 0 2 $9,359
2012 31 2 4 2 $108,505
2011 42 6 1 6 $150,168
2010 59 4 4 9 $135,632
2005 1 0 0 0 $80
2004 27 1 1 2 $19,826
2003 20 1 2 3 $35,500
2002 49 3 5 2 $123,865
2001 49 7 10 4 $218,395
2000 13 2 0 1 $62,650
1999 12 1 1 1 $48,460
1998 9 0 0 0 $1,500
1997 19 0 3 3 $19,050
1996 39 2 2 3 $32,800
1995 44 3 1 6 $42,200
1994 59 9 7 4 $194,608
1993 77 12 12 7 $249,043
1991 10 0 0 0 $0
1990 17 0 0 2 $10,260
1989 7 0 0 0 $0
1988 97 4 6 7 $99,070
1987 79 6 10 11 $132,295
1986 52 6 6 7 $86,080
1985 16 1 1 1 $14,120
1984 65 11 9 10 $167,880
1983 2 1 0 1 $11,880
1981 4 0 0 2 $2,880

Anyone with half a clue can determine with the stats, the story, and some basic background of NYRA who this fellow is, and why there's a gap in results around 1998....

Disgusting that you participate here, and pass yourselves off as fans of the game.

Why not send an e mail to equibase and ask them why Sandino Sr's stats are listed under Sandino Jr's record. If you type in "Hernandez" in Equibase, only one Sandino comes up.

[SaratogaSteve]

Originally Posted by Stillriledup

Why not send an e mail to equibase and ask them why Sandino Sr's stats are listed under Sandino Jr's record. If you type in "Hernandez" in Equibase, only one Sandino comes up.

Why? You're the fool who doesn't know what he's talking about, which isn't preventing you from spewing falsehoods about someone's career and livelihood.

[moneyandland]

Originally Posted by SaratogaSteve

Why? You're the fool who doesn't know what he's talking about, which isn't preventing you from spewing falsehoods about someone's career and livelihood.

You're the fool if you think he's on the up and up, In the DRF article it states he's been training horses for 30 years, Even if were only looking at stats since 1998 the so called time he went out on his own he's been no better than 15% and over that time period he was 8%

Sorry but when a guy just jumps to super trainer after years of toiling as he "eked out a living" it's a red flag...

As long as you insist on bringing up his father, how about we bring up the fact that his father was banned for life from riding after being caught with a buzzer...

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=1581,834429

I'm betting the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I am a fan of the game and when people like him make a mockery of it, they need to be called out, It's ok for a guy to have a hot streak, but when you see a guy start taking horses off 25% legit trainers, and move them forward after showing no signs of that training ability for 17 years, Questions need to be asked... Or you could turn a blind eye to everything which is how the game got to be in the state its in now

[appistappis]

I put sandino Hernandez into a Spanish to English translator and it came out kirk ziade.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by SaratogaSteve

Why? You're the fool who doesn't know what he's talking about, which isn't preventing you from spewing falsehoods about someone's career and livelihood.

Spewing falsehoods? What "falsehood" did i "spew"?

I just quoted the guy's stats from equibase, i didn't "spew" anything that wasn't listed in his official stats. Like i said, if you think Equibase was wrong, take it up with them.