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01-12-2018, 07:39 PM
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#136
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
So you are saying the common worker hasn't gotten shit in over 40 years, and is now tasting at a least a little?
What did dipshit in charge Obama do about the gap between the haves and have nots? Oh, that's right, it more than doubled under his watch along with the debt.
Quit posting.
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Obama promised everyone that the new normal would be an anemic GDP. What a guy! What a great accomplishment! But weak in the area of predictions.
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01-12-2018, 09:25 PM
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#137
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South Jersey
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
What did dipshit in charge Obama do about the gap between the haves and have nots? Oh, that's right, it more than doubled under his watch along with the debt.
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Obama got about 20 million people health insurance they didn't have before he was elected president.
Is that dipshitty enough for you?
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01-12-2018, 09:31 PM
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#138
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Resurrectionist
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Obama got about 20 million people health insurance they didn't have before he was elected president.
Is that dipshitty enough for you?
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Once again, who paid for it? I had many employees, those are people THAT work, where their deductions increased monthly by 300%. They thanked the Messiah every day with words that made this sailor blush.
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01-12-2018, 10:00 PM
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#139
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 11,474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Obama got about 20 million people health insurance they didn't have before he was elected president.
Is that dipshitty enough for you?
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No he didn't.
He put our entire country into more debt. IN fact, he doubled it.
ACA? Really? If that is his shining moment, then a turd in a diaper will be better from Trump.
Great plan that needs an annual subsidy to keep it "somewhat" sustainable while insurance costs double and triple around the nation.
20 million IS this more CBO laughingly bullshit scoring?
Name 3 people you know that got health insurance due to ACA. I trust you won't lie.
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01-12-2018, 10:14 PM
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#140
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Name 3 people you know that got health insurance due to ACA. I trust you won't lie.
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There’s been more than three people on this forum that benefitted from the ACA. Did you ever read any of Dave Schwartz’s experiences?
Do you think everyone on this forum has awesome insurance from their employer?
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01-12-2018, 10:19 PM
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#141
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Obama got about 20 million people health insurance they didn't have before he was elected president.
Is that dipshitty enough for you?
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Dude...
It was a disaster before it was gutted and will be a bigger disaster now. Exchanges were failing and carriers pulling out. Out of that oft cited 20-30 million people 65-80% just got Medicaid hardly a huge victory by any stretch.
Remove fraud from the system and expanding Medicare would have been a better big government option if that's the route you wanted to go.
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 01-12-2018 at 10:24 PM.
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01-12-2018, 10:33 PM
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#142
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
There’s been more than three people on this forum that benefitted from the ACA. Did you ever read any of Dave Schwartz’s experiences?
Do you think everyone on this forum has awesome insurance from their employer?
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ACA insurance has nearly tripled in my state since it began.
3 of my good friends are small business owners. Between them, they had to fire 43 people due to insurance costs. Really nice when it is a 6 person operation and you have to let 2 people go.
Yeah, I know, I'm in shitville nowhere Nebraska. We don't matter. Just like the rest of flyover country
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01-12-2018, 11:09 PM
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#143
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: South Jersey
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Dude...
It was a disaster before it was gutted and will be a bigger disaster now. Exchanges were failing and carriers pulling out. Out of that oft cited 20-30 million people 65-80% just got Medicaid hardly a huge victory by any stretch.
Remove fraud from the system and expanding Medicare would have been a better big government option if that's the route you wanted to go.
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My point is Obama actually did something for people who needed it the most. That the GOP tried to make sure the ACA failed at every turn since it was signed into law in 2010 didn't help.
Expanding Medicare is definitely the way I want to go.
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01-12-2018, 11:40 PM
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#144
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
My point is Obama actually did something for people who needed it the most. That the GOP tried to make sure the ACA failed at every turn since it was signed into law in 2010 didn't help.
Expanding Medicare is definitely the way I want to go.
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How did the GOP try to make it fail?
2010? Dems owned everything.
The cold. Hard. Fact. Is that ACA is shit, and purely unsustainable.
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01-13-2018, 01:45 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,814
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Don’t forget they spent 2.1 Billion to just setup the website.
All to Democratic Party related companies.
Fraud, pure and simple!
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01-13-2018, 07:15 AM
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#146
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
My point is Obama actually did something for people who needed it the most. That the GOP tried to make sure the ACA failed at every turn since it was signed into law in 2010 didn't help.
Expanding Medicare is definitely the way I want to go.
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But a great many of us said it was doomed from the start.
I don't see how taking something that is broken and breaking it even more is a victory because it's not. But Obamacare was already requiring bailouts. It was what happens when a bunch of big government people get together and try to tell businesses how to run their operation.
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01-13-2018, 07:18 AM
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#147
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,173
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Obama got about 20 million people health insurance they didn't have before he was elected president.
Is that dipshitty enough for you?
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Obama's sorry legacy is being ripped apart plank by plank.
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01-13-2018, 07:19 AM
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#148
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,173
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
No he didn't.
He put our entire country into more debt. IN fact, he doubled it.
ACA? Really? If that is his shining moment, then a turd in a diaper will be better from Trump.
Great plan that needs an annual subsidy to keep it "somewhat" sustainable while insurance costs double and triple around the nation.
20 million IS this more CBO laughingly bullshit scoring?
Name 3 people you know that got health insurance due to ACA. I trust you won't lie.
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You forgot to mention that plan choice under Obamacare grows less and less for more and more people. Soon, most of us will have one choice for a carrier.
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01-13-2018, 07:22 AM
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#149
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,173
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Don’t forget they spent 2.1 Billion to just setup the website.
All to Democratic Party related companies.
Fraud, pure and simple!
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Because web design is so difficult
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01-13-2018, 09:16 AM
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#150
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 46,884
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
But a great many of us said it was doomed from the start.
I don't see how taking something that is broken and breaking it even more is a victory because it's not. But Obamacare was already requiring bailouts. It was what happens when a bunch of big government people get together and try to tell businesses how to run their operation.
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Newsflash of Common Sense: When something is broken beyond repair, the reasonable and sensible thing to do is walk it out to the curb or easement on garbage pick up day and then replace it with something better. By the way, this was exactly the argument the Demwits used to justify the takeover of the Health Care Industry. They claimed the system was broken beyond repair. Just sayin'....
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