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12-27-2013, 01:41 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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Claimed Back
I see a lot horse that are claimed and then in the next race or the second back is claimed back the original trainer and pops today. Do you like these kinds of horses? Do you hate them? Why?
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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12-27-2013, 01:52 PM
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Racing Form Detective
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One of those type of horses just won the fourth at Aqu paying $13.60
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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12-27-2013, 02:36 PM
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I've never seen stats on it, but it can't be a bad sign because that means the former trainer knows the horse is sound etc...
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12-27-2013, 02:52 PM
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rob
Would say strength the play being knows the horse and where he is going to put him to get his money back plus two re invest money .I think would be a big deal getting $13.00 on a horse like that is great
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12-27-2013, 10:13 PM
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Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. 
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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12-27-2013, 11:34 PM
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Of major importance is who's claiming and reclaiming from whom.
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12-27-2013, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. |
Touché
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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12-28-2013, 07:03 AM
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Well I find it INSIDOUS when a trainer claims back w/a DIFFERENT owner...some thing SMELLS then...esp...when they pay HIGHER for it...why sell for OTHER owner in 1st place 
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12-28-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Cramer wrote about that angle in one of his newsletters. |
I think it was Olmstead, way before Cramer was involved.
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12-28-2013, 01:37 PM
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The re-claim is one of those old-school angles I first read about in a book written in the '60s or '50s...and one of the old-school angles that when I see it I take a 2nd look at the horse. I have always felt that a re-claim was usually a positive factor, so I just keep it in mind.
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12-28-2013, 01:56 PM
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I think I read about this angle long ago by Ray Taulbot in the ATM mag.
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12-28-2013, 02:49 PM
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Old angle ... not one to count on.
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12-28-2013, 03:02 PM
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I see this much more so in Harness Racing than in T-breds...Still, I have discovered and bet on this "angle" in both scenes, before...
When a trainer "Re-claims" a horse for himself, it is a very significant thing to track, imo...
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12-28-2013, 03:04 PM
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Maybe if it's owner/trainer it would be a better bet. Some owners aren't so smart.
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12-28-2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LottaKash
I see this much more so in Harness Racing than in T-breds...Still, I have discovered and bet on this "angle" in both scenes, before...
When a trainer "Re-claims" a horse for himself, it is a very significant thing to track, imo...
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I left something out of this angle...And, it is too important to not include it....
When a Trainer RE-CLAIMS a horse for himself, he must have been the Owner/Trainer as well, at that time, before he lost that horse....
It is obvious that the trainer knows that he has an edge with this horse, and is worth having him back again....
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