Del Mar Mega Pick-6 Carryover: $1,597,470

[andymays]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Our "boycott California" slogan might need to be revised.

"BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA, EXCEPT FOR PICK-6 CARRYOVER DAYS."

Whoever said that we horseplayers have no resolve?

Is there a boycott?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by andymays

Is there a boycott?

There should be. Effective immediately!

"CALIFORNIA RACING IS DEAD TO US."

Is this only rhetoric?

[andymays]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

There should be. Effective immediately!

"CALIFORNIA IS DEAD TO US."

Is this only rhetoric?

Since we are going down this road please explain why we should boycott California and not other tracks. I know the answer and I'm ready if one is called but I'd like to know if you know.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by andymays

Since we are going down this road please explain why we should boycott California and not other tracks. I know the answer and I'm ready if one is called but I'd like to know if you know.

Andy, why the patronizing tone?

You say that you "know the answer". Has it occurred to you that you might be wrong?

I know the answer too, and I think that MY answer is different than yours.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Andy, why the patronizing tone?
You say that you "know the answer". Has it occured to you that you might be wrong?

I know the answer too, and I think that it's different than yours.

Let me see. I start a thread about a carryover and just because it's in California people think it's cool to put up the Dead shit. If it's the new policy of the board to go into a thread and throw that out every time California is mentioned then I'll abide by it. But I don't think that's the case.

And no it hasn't occurred to me that I am wrong because I follow it and deal with it every day out here. I don't expect you to know that but are you at least getting why I might not appreciate someone hijacking a thread about a carryover in California?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by andymays

Let me see. I start a thread about a carryover and just because it's in California people think it's cool to put up the Dead shit. If it's the new policy of the board to go into a thread and throw that out every time California is mentioned then I'll abide by it. But I don't think that's the case.

And no it hasn't occurred to me that I am wrong because I follow it and deal with it every day out here. I don't expect you to know that but are you at least getting why I might not appreciate someone hijacking a thread about a carryover in California?

I apologize for hijacking the thread...it was never my intention.

I thought that we agreed last night, that we would respond in this way in ALL California threads, as a form of protest.

If I misunderstood, I stand corrected.

[Rook]

Any horseplayer defending California tracks when they are about to raise the takeout by is probably the sort of guy who would stick up for his wife when he found out she was cheating on him. It's a pathetic sight to see.

When someone punches you in the nose, you punch back. You don't get the Stockholm syndrome.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

I apologize for hijacking the thread...it was never my intention.

I thought that we agreed last night, that we would respond in this way in ALL California threads, as a form of protest.

If I misunderstood, I stand corrected.

It's not a huge deal. The apology isn't necessary at all.

I know some people thought it was a good idea but it's a bad idea and here's why:

Right now in California there are quite a few Racing Officials, Owners, and Trainers who don't think raising the take is a good idea. Just about all the radio show hosts out here are against raising the takeout.

Nothing will have the effect of losing their support than if they percieve that California is being treated unfairly by people that just want to bash California. Nobody outside of rwwupl has fought these bastard that are raising the take more than me. I do it just about every day and I have a pretty good idea of what will sell and what won't.

It's important to fight this thing the right way and that means not giving them any excuse to turn the tables on us. The guys that are doing this in California are no dummies and they almost always get what they want. This time however there is a real shot to change things for the better and they are nervous about it.

The apology isn't necessary at all. I'm the guy that's on edge over this stuff. It's hard to explain but believe me nobody wants to beat their asses more than me.

[Charlie D]

All the best with the Fight Andy.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by Rook

Any horseplayer defending California tracks when they are about to raise the takeout by is probably the sort of guy who would stick up for his wife when he found out she was cheating on him. It's a pathetic sight to see.

When someone punches you in the nose, you punch back. You don't get the Stockholm syndrome.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse you say something like this.

Do you have any clue? Do you know anything you are talking about?

Now you choose to throw peoples families into your bullshit. WTF?

[Rook]

Originally Posted by andymays

Do you have any clue? Do you know anything you are talking about?

Now you choose to throw peoples families into your bullshit. WTF?

Yes, I know what I'm talking about but I have no idea what you are referring to. Whose family have I discussed? WTF, yourself

[andymays]

Originally Posted by Rook

Yes, I know what I'm talking about but I have no idea what you are referring to. Whose family have I discussed? WTF, yourself

Hey rook who the hell do you think your bullshitting here. You came up with a cute slogan and you think it's cool to hijack a thread because you think you might be holding the high moral ground right. You seem to think you know what sort of guy I am so let me hear it. Get on with it.

[andymays]

Good night everyone. Everyone should sleep well now that we know Rook will always be there to hold people like me accountable.

[Stillriledup]

If you're good at bingo you have a shot at this place.


They turned horse racing into the lottery....so, we have ANOTHER state lottery.

[Rook]

Originally Posted by andymays

You seem to think you know what sort of guy I am so let me hear it. Get on with it.

The only thing I know about you Andy is that you have a crusade against polytrack. I respect that and I have never got involved in any of your threads because I am neutral on the subject. My ROI on poly is virtually identical to dirt and turf.

My crusade is against takeout increases because that has an obvious negative effect on my family's income, especially if California is the first of many.