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12-29-2018, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
About a Billion dollars in goods flows throw the Texas border with Mexico a day... deep blue... Blexas...
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Not leverage.
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12-29-2018, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Not leverage.
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Huh...?
Trump doesn't have leverage in this fight... He never did... Its why I can't still figure out how people let him pick it...
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12-29-2018, 07:23 PM
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#618
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Huh...?
Trump doesn't have leverage in this fight... He never did... Its why I can't still figure out how people let him pick it...
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Because he is not controlled by the establishment like Bush was.
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12-29-2018, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Because he is not controlled by the establishment like Bush was.
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Bucking the establishment is one thing...
Trying to force a deal when you have nothing to offer in exchange for what you want is just foolish...
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12-29-2018, 07:35 PM
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#620
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Bucking the establishment is one thing...
Trying to force a deal when you have nothing to offer in exchange for what you want is just foolish...
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Let product pile up in Mexico, I could care less. But I bet the pain by Mexico will be immense.
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12-29-2018, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The wall is definitely a potential deterrent. Will it stop everyone? Of course not.
But it will make a serious and worthwhile impact.
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Mexico is third behind China and India for illegal immigrants. Obviously the wall isn't going to stop the Asian illegals. The wall isn't going to stop Mexicans who go to school in the United States (on a legal visa) and just stay. The wall isn't going to do a lot to stop illegals and drug mules coming through tunnels. If you have the same ratio of guards as there was on the Berlin Wall, you'll have to hire 20,000 more government workers, aka ICE workers.
It will make a minor impact overall and will not just cost billions now, but billions in the future to maintain the wall and pay for ICE to stand guard on the wall.
I totally believe in the need to protect our borders. But let's not delude ourselves into believing a wall will stop everybody that needs stopping, including the Asians. How about a plan that is more encompassing than just a wall?
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12-29-2018, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
I totally believe in the need to protect our borders. But let's not delude ourselves into believing a wall will stop everybody that needs stopping, including the Asians.
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I just said it WOULDN'T.
NOBODY is operating under that belief, except for folks like you, THINKING they know what I believe.
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12-29-2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Let product pile up in Mexico, I could care less. But I bet the pain by Mexico will be immense.
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And let all the beef and pork and eggs and farm products we sell to Mexico pile up here?
You keep talking about who is going to get hurt without a shred of evidence. In spite of wild claims by The Donald, trade does go both ways across that border.
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12-29-2018, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
And let all the beef and pork and eggs and farm products we sell to Mexico pile up here?
You keep talking about who is going to get hurt without a shred of evidence. In spite of wild claims by The Donald, trade does go both ways across that border.
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Let the pain begin, we can post more about the subject. I really don't know what will happen, but do know you and I can't do anything that will change things.
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12-29-2018, 07:59 PM
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#625
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12-29-2018, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I really don't know what will happen,
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But you keep making claims that you do, 80% this and 5 times that. Have you ever considered a career in politics? Or do you already have one? 
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12-29-2018, 08:17 PM
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No this is cool beans as it gets, you don't like the 80 find a number to counter it.
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12-29-2018, 08:18 PM
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#628
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Originally Posted by fast4522
No this is cool beans as it gets, you don't like the 80 find a number to counter it.
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Alternative Facts...
Conway is that you?
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12-29-2018, 08:26 PM
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#629
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12-29-2018, 08:33 PM
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#630
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Originally Posted by fast4522
No this is cool beans as it gets, you don't like the 80 find a number to counter it.
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You visited 100 sites without finding a source for the 80% that you pulled out of the blue sky, or some deeper darker place, so you try to shift the burden of proof to me. You are a career politician, aren't you? Fess up. 
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