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11-24-2018, 04:55 PM
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#391
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11-24-2018, 05:02 PM
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11-24-2018, 05:22 PM
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#393
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Smarty Pants
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Freedom of Religion
I still believe in Global Warming!
My First Amendment Right, n'est-ce pas?
I studied French too!
There is no science that supports doing anything about religious belief.
Trying to "handicap" race 5 at Del Mar so please excuse me.
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11-24-2018, 05:31 PM
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1 7 8 DMR 5
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11-24-2018, 05:33 PM
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Smarty Pants
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Originally Posted by fast4522
1 7 8 DMR 5
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Wrong category fast.
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11-24-2018, 05:34 PM
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#396
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What? Thems the value Del Mar 5 was a tough race
Last edited by fast4522; 11-24-2018 at 05:37 PM.
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11-24-2018, 05:42 PM
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Smarty Pants
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fast, they're all tough.
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11-25-2018, 12:50 PM
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France: Macron to Address the Nation as Protests Against ‘Green’ Tax Hikes Escalate
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...ikes-escalate/
Very glad to see that not all the French are stupid!
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11-25-2018, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
There are two main parts to this discussion.
Is there a scientific basis for man affecting climate change
Do your two Bens mean anything for instance
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Can man do anything about it if there is.
If is not doable, does that make not true.
That is not logical, or scientific.
Seems to me your ducking big time as per your usual ridiculous routine.
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1. Yes.
2. Not much without global participation and without creating a global depression dismantling our current energy infrastructure and trying to replace it quickly enough.
I can already tell you what the most likely scenario is.
1. The earth will continue warming.
2. Energy alternatives will continue to be developed and very slowly replace fossil fuels as it makes economic sense.
3. If the earth warms more than a degree or two, some places that were formerly comfortable will be less so and some places that were formerly not comfortable will become so.
4. People, farms, farmers, businesses, etc.. will very slowly migrate to the new better locations and brand new great cities will form.
5. We'll all live happily ever after and prosper like never before
6. Global warming will be a non-event.
If you want to worry about something that's an actual high risk, worry about :
1. War mongers in Washington trying to impose their will on other countries and threatening countries like Russia by moving NATO closer to their border.
2. Diseases that were close to eliminated re-emerging and new ones emerging as open borders allow people from all over the 3rd world to travel freely into large cities around the world and formerly effective medicines are not as effective.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 11-25-2018 at 04:28 PM.
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11-25-2018, 07:31 PM
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global warming/climate change, whatever the believers choose to call it, will be the least concern we have in this country over the next fifty years. In fact it's dying a very slow death. More and more people are growing tired of hearing the same old crap and having nothing really change. Hell, the weatherman can't even predict the weather correctly at least half the time. No way in hell anybody is going to predict what happens regarding climate/weather, etc. over the next fifty years.
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11-26-2018, 04:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Is there a scientific basis for man affecting climate change.
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Yes
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Originally Posted by hcap
Can man do anything about it if there is.
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
2. Not much without global participation and without creating a global depression dismantling our current energy infrastructure and trying to replace it quickly enough.
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We really don't know what the solutions could be. However there is a another less palatable way to look at the problem.
The main "hurdle" is realizing we are at a tipping point of an irreversible imminent catastrophe. Previously. say at the latter part of WWII, another possible catastrophe, we a instituted massive effort, cost was no object, to defeat the Nazis to research, and build an atom bomb as well as win at any means necessary. Or the rebuilding of Europe and Japan after the war.
Or when our "prestige" was at stake to get to the moon before the Soviets. I agree private markets must be involved, but the problem and solutions are on such a massive scale they may only be dealt with by both a governmental intervention, and business following up.
But of course "free-marketeers" like yourself have a hard time admitting that. However, I am encouraged you can agree AGW is real and do not buy into Tom's two (2 Bens) lame meteorologists, an irresponsible asinine pseudo-scientific cop out
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11-26-2018, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chadk66
global warming/climate change, whatever the believers choose to call it, will be the least concern we have in this country over the next fifty years. In fact it's dying a very slow death. More and more people are growing tired of hearing the same old crap and having nothing really change. Hell, the weatherman can't even predict the weather correctly at least half the time. No way in hell anybody is going to predict what happens regarding climate/weather, etc. over the next fifty years.
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Aw shucks. Guess either I will stop annoying you,, or you can put me on ignore.
Btw, There have been concepts elaborated on this specific climate change thread that have not been gone into on all the dozens of previous climate change threads. Not the same old, same old. And need I remind you weathermen are not climatologists, nor is weather, climate, but as science progresses, even their predictions have improved.
What has not improved is climate change deniers attenuating to disprove the science, using the scientific method
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11-26-2018, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Aw shucks. Guess either I will stop annoying you,, or you can put me on ignore.
Btw, There have been concepts elaborated on this specific climate change thread that have not been gone into on all the dozens of previous climate change threads. Not the same old, same old. And need I remind you weathermen are not climatologists, nor is weather, climate, but as science progresses, even their predictions have improved.
What has not improved is climate change deniers attenuating to disprove the science, using the scientific method
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and neither has the scientific method involving or trying to determine mans involvement with the weather.
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11-26-2018, 10:56 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt
Cry me a river, you condescend and then crap on people, then turn around and want sympathy. You are nothing but a whining, pathetic bitch. Dial me up another red card and a week suspension.
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Actually, a perma-ban will likely be the result for someone so blatant.
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11-26-2018, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by davew
and neither has the scientific method involving or trying to determine mans involvement with the weather.
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We have already answered this. Give up
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