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01-05-2021, 12:26 AM
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#1951
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by razor68
Are you the controller of thought and information. Is this like twitter and facebook? Will i get banned for giving an opinion that is not groovy with what you want.
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No. But if you keep acting like an asshole, you'll definitely get banned...just like before...
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01-06-2021, 11:41 PM
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#1952
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 46
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
No. But if you keep acting like an asshole, you'll definitely get banned...just like before...
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So just so everyone knows because i have copied your post. We are banning people and declaring them an asshole for not going along with the way you want them to. Is this a forum for free speech or one that you get banned for saying something against the all mighty Pace advantage bot that is very tough and mighty behind a computer.
Must be nice to be able to ban someone. Does it make you feel empowered.
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01-06-2021, 11:44 PM
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#1953
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
No. But if you keep acting like an asshole, you'll definitely get banned...just like before...
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Maybe one day I can have 70,000 posts on here and be able to threaten someone who I disagree with that I will ban them. One can only hope...
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01-07-2021, 02:25 AM
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#1954
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Whatever Mr. Sep 2020.
You're so SERIOUS!
I love it.
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01-08-2021, 04:00 PM
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#1955
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by razor68
If you can find another sport were there are a few dudes that dictate the race without any rationale or strict guideline id like to know.
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I've been watching crooked crap in that sport for 50 years, its called NFL referees, lol.
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01-09-2021, 03:57 PM
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#1956
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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I'm pretty surprised by the DQ of the in the 4th at SA yesterday, January 8. It was a squeeze play at the start. The clearly initiated it, but (1) it was at the start of a 2 turn race (remember Bayern in the BC Classic?) and (2) there were several horses involved in the squeeze, including the as well. It was clearly unfortunate for the , but this sort of thing is racing luck to me.
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01-10-2021, 01:06 PM
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#1957
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Another DQ at the start, this time in the 9th at Santa Anita yesterday. (I bet the DQ'd horse, but only to win.) The was DQ'd for apparently causing a chain reaction that caused the to lose the rider. I couldn't see it. It looked like pretty minor bumping, but I realize Rosario did fall off the . A foul that displaces a rider at the start can lead to a DQ, but I couldn't see the causation the stewards did here.
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03-27-2021, 03:12 PM
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#1958
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
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One Mile Distance at Turfway, multiple objections this meet
Earlier today, Sat Mar 27 2021 at Turfway Park in R3, the rider of #3 lodged an objection against the runaway winner #10 WOKE UP TO ACES for alleged interference going into the first turn.
Imo, the stewards made the correct call: "No change."
I can't help but notice there have been several of these over the current meet - where crowding takes place as the horses enter the first turn for races run at the One Mile Distance at Turfway Park.
Imo, the crowding isn't being caused by riders who suddenly decide to cut over.
Imo, the Turfway course layout at the One Mile Distance is to blame.
Imo, the starting gate is too close to the first turn, and creates a situation where the horses don't have enough time to sort themselves out on a Tapeta surface. The crowding is a direct result of this.
Fyi, the runup in the Equibase Chart Data for today's Turfway R3 is listed at 45 feet.
Imo, a longer runup would likely reduce the incidence rate for the crowding that keeps happening as the horses enter the first turn of the One Mile Distance at Turfway Park.
-jp
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Last edited by Jeff P; 03-27-2021 at 03:16 PM.
Reason: Clean up
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03-27-2021, 03:57 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
Earlier today, Sat Mar 27 2021 at Turfway Park in R3, the rider of #3 lodged an objection against the runaway winner #10 WOKE UP TO ACES for alleged interference going into the first turn.
Imo, the stewards made the correct call: "No change."
I can't help but notice there have been several of these over the current meet - where crowding takes place as the horses enter the first turn for races run at the One Mile Distance at Turfway Park.
Imo, the crowding isn't being caused by riders who suddenly decide to cut over.
Imo, the Turfway course layout at the One Mile Distance is to blame.
Imo, the starting gate is too close to the first turn, and creates a situation where the horses don't have enough time to sort themselves out on a Tapeta surface. The crowding is a direct result of this.
Fyi, the runup in the Equibase Chart Data for today's Turfway R3 is listed at 45 feet.
Imo, a longer runup would likely reduce the incidence rate for the crowding that keeps happening as the horses enter the first turn of the One Mile Distance at Turfway Park.
-jp
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Long run ups suck, just make it 1m 70 yards.
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03-27-2021, 04:00 PM
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#1960
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1m 70 yards works for me.
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03-29-2021, 05:22 PM
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#1961
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 103
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parx 10th 3/29
another screw job by the stewards. I will say I had a small wager on the who was DQed from 1st to 3rd. I saw no contact whatsoever. An the crazy part they placed him 3rd. Again probably looking thru a bias here but try to stay fair. I saw no contact that i could see in replay. As i type this i am waiting for a explanation by the track.
Thoughts
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03-29-2021, 05:23 PM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shout1966
another screw job by the stewards. I will say I had a small wager on the who was DQed from 1st to 3rd. I saw no contact whatsoever. An the crazy part they placed him 3rd. Again probably looking thru a bias here but try to stay fair. I saw no contact that i could see in replay. As i type this i am waiting for a explanation by the track.
Thoughts
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BS take down of at Parx r10
herded at the top of the stretch and won.
They take 10 min to decide and show 50 replays...
OK GREAT. Let's enforce herding. I want to see Ortiz etc... taken down every time they do that.
We finally established a 'keep your path' Precedent for Consistent Stewardship!
BREAKING: From now on, herding is 'NOT' allowed anymore. They're gonna take down favorites from super trainers and super owners when their jock herds several times in the race. Facemasks cover your mouth and nose please.
Parx is of the finest quality racing
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03-29-2021, 05:25 PM
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#1963
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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[QUOTE=Robert Fischer;2711643]BS take down of at Parx r10
herded at the top of the stretch and won.
They take 10 min to decide and show 50 replays...
OK GREAT. Let's enforce herding. I want to see Ortiz etc... taken down every time they do that.
We finally established a 'keep your path' Precedent for Consistent Stewardship!
BREAKING: From now on, herding is 'NOT' allowed anymore. They're gonna take down favorites from super trainers and super owners when their jock herds several times in the race. Facemasks cover your mouth and nose please.
Parx is of the finest quality racing[/QUOTE
Just watched the " stewards explanation video" and it confirmed my thoughts above. He should not have been taken down also why 3rd did they see something at the start that they didnt mention.
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03-29-2021, 05:42 PM
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#1964
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There was a Stewards' Inquiry into the start and stretch run, along with a Jockey Objection by the rider of SHERO against the winner, after videoreview, SQUAN'S KINGDOM was disqualified and placed third for bothering rivals in the stretch.
Straight from the full chart of why he was taken down. Should be a investigation into that track.
Further more I lost the last race at parx so I would have won nothing I am still as pissed as I was after the DQ.
Last edited by shout1966; 03-29-2021 at 05:44 PM.
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03-29-2021, 05:44 PM
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#1965
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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Just watched the " stewards explanation video" and it confirmed my thoughts above. He should not have been taken down also why 3rd did they see something at the start that they didnt mention.[/QUOTE]
6 certainly fouled or 'herded' the 10
Problem is that there is no 'common accepted practice', where the jocks can adapt and always ride a certain way.
how does the steward(s) 'feel' today? Who was involved? Jock? Trainer? Owner? Favorite? Turf? Stakes? Cheap clm?
The down to 3rd was just random decision, based on the nearly bobbing in a photo for 2nd w/ ...
then, you can laugh at if the had lucked into 2nd in the photo..., the stewards would be in a stupor of brainfreeze.... 3rd vs 1st??
And they take 10+ min or whatever to decide as a cherry on top.
Fair call in a vacuum, it's just that 'Racing' has to be consistent
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