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Old 03-11-2014, 01:42 AM   #106
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Or, hell, lets just make fun of special Olympic kids and their supposed inability to bowl!!!
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:59 AM   #107
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If the right gets higher ratings then the left isn't doing a very good job of controlling, is it?
It's mind boggling sometimes, especially to an idiot like me.
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:04 AM   #108
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If the right gets higher ratings then the left isn't doing a very good job of controlling, is it?
Actually, they do a great job. Fox news gets top ratings among its peers, however, most people still get their news and opinion from the major networks and newspapers.
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Fox news gets top ratings among its peers
I would hope so.

Look...You and I don't seem to have a problem in figuring it out. How about letting others think for themselves. If they can't then maybe they aren't meant for the challenge.
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The left did what they had to do...what the right would have done.

The responsibility in what happened falls squarely at the feet of the GOP for putting her up to begin with.

Unfortunately, in this day and age, the GOP is left with the unique problem of putting up a PERFECT CANDIDATE. And when I mean PERFECT, we are talking absolutely 100% perfect. Perfect in looks...perfect in stature...perfect hair...perfect mix of nationalities...perfect cadence...super-human intelligence...and on and on and on...you get the picture...

Nothing else will be seen as acceptable from the opposition, which, unfortunately, also happens to control the media dialogue in this country. This, despite the fact that right-leaning programming always seems to get higher ratings.

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The GOP won twice with GWB who was far from the perfect candidate. The GOP just needs put up somebody decent. A good place to start is somebody under 60 who won their last general election. There are ton of GOP senators and governors who fit that description. Now throw out the ones with foot-in-mouth disease. Then pick someone who is a conservative but not too far right. Avoid hard core tea partiers and you have a potential winner. The hard right won't love him or her, but then again anybody they love hasn't a chance. The key is to pick someone who can relay the message that government can do things when it has to, but will only do them when it absolutely has to. That is where the center of the American people currently are now and has been for quite a while. I wish they were further to the left, but they aren't.
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Actually, they do a great job. Fox news gets top ratings among its peers, however, most people still get their news and opinion from the major networks and newspapers.
Fox news does a pretty good job of reporting the news when there is no politics involved in the story. But they will beat a story to death if there is way to portray Obama in unfavorable light. They have found a profitable niche for them and they are going to exploit it for all it is worth while they can. As a cable channel that is what they are suppose to do if they are to be profitable. The question is whether they will survive as a player when Obama is gone. MSNBC was going great guns when Bush was president, but now is merely taking up a channel slot with about as viewers as QVC. I don't have an opinion either way on what will happen to Fox News once Obama is gone. Trying to pick winners in cable TV is like try to pick the supra in the derby cold.
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Fox news does a pretty good job of reporting the news when there is no politics involved in the story. But they will beat a story to death if there is way to portray Obama in unfavorable light. They have found a profitable niche for them and they are going to exploit it for all it is worth while they can. As a cable channel that is what they are suppose to do if they are to be profitable. The question is whether they will survive as a player when Obama is gone. MSNBC was going great guns when Bush was president, but now is merely taking up a channel slot with about as viewers as QVC. I don't have an opinion either way on what will happen to Fox News once Obama is gone. Trying to pick winners in cable TV is like try to pick the supra in the derby cold.
You know they have been around a lot longer than Obama, right?
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The GOP won twice with GWB who was far from the perfect candidate. The GOP just needs put up somebody decent. A good place to start is somebody under 60 who won their last general election. There are ton of GOP senators and governors who fit that description. Now throw out the ones with foot-in-mouth disease. ... pick someone who is a conservative but not too far right. Avoid hard core tea partiers and you have a potential winner. The hard right won't love him or her, but then again anybody they love hasn't a chance. The key is to pick someone who can relay the message that government can do things when it has to, but will only do them when it absolutely has to. That is where the center of the American people currently are now and has been for quite a while. I wish they were further to the left, but they aren't.
I just love it when left wingers tell people what the GOP needs to do to win an election. I never met a left winger yet who had the best interest for the country at heart much less what's best for the GOP or proud Conservatives.
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No, he couldn't even get it right when it is a song and he couldn't even sign it right.

Ever wonder how the idiot would do with the alphabet?

Acdb,feg.....

Oh, and let's not forget, this is the same mental midget who said that we give breathalizers to kids with asthma.
Well the left wing was right about one thing ... affirmative action is definitely needed for a person who is an imbecil but does possess lofty goals and dreams.
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oweee!

I was hoping for something with more substance.....


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I just love it when left wingers tell people what the GOP needs to do to win an election. I never met a left winger yet who had the best interest for the country at heart much less what's best for the GOP or proud Conservatives.
Just telling you what I fear. I have no problem saying what I think. Nobody pays any attention anyhow. I love it when "proud" conservatives talk because people listen to them and they scare the Hell out of anybody other than one of there own thinking about voting for one.
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Just telling you what I fear. I have no problem saying what I think. Nobody pays any attention anyhow. I love it when "proud" conservatives talk because people listen to them and they scare the Hell out of anybody other than one of there own thinking about voting for one.
My response has been a bone of contention with me for ages.

I find it laughable that left wingers/Democrats/Progressives, et al, always offer advise on what the GOP needs to do to win an election.

Why would conservatives or even the establishment GOP heed such advise from our political (and our country's) enemies?

Also, why would proud conservatives scare you, Robert?

Don't you care about the (mis)direction our country is taking?

Speaking of scary, isn't it real scary on how much Obama has demeaned our standing in the world?

The Ukraine, Iran, Egypt, Syria is a powder keg yet all the world sees lately is this clown Obama and his court jester, Joe Biden, always on vacation, playing golf, talking policy to 8-year-old school kids, drawing thin pink lines at our enemies and getting his NCAA brackets in order.

And you say proud conservatives scare you??

Have you seriously thought it through on how Obama's Affordable Care Act is not affordable at all nor does it have any health care in it?

Does it bother you on principle that someone like Mike Barnicle could virulently demean Sarah Palin on television and call her a moron despite the fact that he personally has a history of dishonesty and plagarism while a columnist for a major Boston newspaper?

Yet, left wingers on this great board seemed to get all bent out of shape when I started an earlier thread about the Democrat's War on Women.

The true hateful and scary stuff, Robert, is all laid at the feet of the left wing and the Democrat Party.
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My response has been a bone of contention with me for ages.

I find it laughable that left wingers/Democrats/Progressives, et al, always offer advise on what the GOP needs to do to win an election.

Why would conservatives or even the establishment GOP heed such advise from our political (and our country's) enemies?

Also, why would proud conservatives scare you, Robert?

Don't you care about the (mis)direction our country is taking?

Speaking of scary, isn't it real scary on how much Obama has demeaned our standing in the world?

The Ukraine, Iran, Egypt, Syria is a powder keg yet all the world sees lately is this clown Obama and his court jester, Joe Biden, always on vacation, playing golf, talking policy to 8-year-old school kids, drawing thin pink lines at our enemies and getting his NCAA brackets in order.

And you say proud conservatives scare you??

Have you seriously thought it through on how Obama's Affordable Care Act is not affordable at all nor does it have any health care in it?

Does it bother you on principle that someone like Mike Barnicle could virulently demean Sarah Palin on television and call her a moron despite the fact that he personally has a history of dishonesty and plagarism while a columnist for a major Boston newspaper?

Yet, left wingers on this great board seemed to get all bent out of shape when I started an earlier thread about the Democrat's War on Women.

The true hateful and scary stuff, Robert, is all laid at the feet of the left wing and the Democrat Party.
ALL the "hateful and scary stuff" should be laid at the feet of the left wing and the Democratic Party...Mr. Reckless? Aren't there any hateful and scary stuff left over to be laid at the feet of the right wing and the Republican Party?

Obama ALONE was the one who "demeaned our standing in the world"?

What did GWB do? ENDEAR us to the world?
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ALL the "hateful and scary stuff" should be laid at the feet of the left wing and the Democratic Party
hi Thaskalos,

Yes, I feel the hateful and scary stuff seems to be the imprimatur of the left wing and Democrat Party. There is much more 'proof' on this opinion than not.


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I am sure one could find isolated examples. I am no fan of the current establishment GOP by any means, and I have on record for years on end, here and elsewhere, said so at the expense of the GOP. I am a 'proud' conservative that our friend Robert Goren seems to afraid of.

Just an example of the hateful (and silly) left wing. The left hates the Koch Brothers and in NYC, there are Council Members looking to protest and refuse the $100 million gift for a Medical Hospital. I would think that such a generous gift would be accepted with open arms. I would also think that this gift would help provide top health care for all citizens -- Democrats, liberals, Republicans, scary conservatives, Jews, Gentiles, Muslims -- basically everybody, including Italians and Greeks .

But because the Koch Brothers are GOP money men, conservative in nature and even worst, oil men, liberals want to refuse their offer.

Do you think this is silly to put partisan politics ahead of what is good for the general citizenry? I do.


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Obama ALONE was the one who "demeaned our standing in the world"?
Well, I do recall when G.W. Bush was accused of the same crime, the accusations came from ideological enemies of the USA: college campuses, the UN, the French, the Hague, you know who, the usual suspects.

Obama is all by himself as the reason the world thinks that the USA is no longer a major world power and a laughingstock.

Some examples: Putin bitch-slapping Obama with his actions in the Ukraine has proven this; the Syrian 'red line' threat that was a joke in the world's eyes; blaming the Bhengazi terrorist attack on a You Tube video... a lie that caused deaths to our Ambassador and soldiers. Again, the world knew better, but the left wing in the USA still uses this lie as a reason. How about Obama and Hilary supporting our enemy the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and elsewhere, all dangerous and scary stuff.

Israel and even some Arab countries have spoken on the record that Obama can't be trusted. I never read or heard from any legit source that the USA under Bush couldn't be trusted. Plain and simple no one trusts Obama, Kerry, Hilary and the USA anymore.
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If the right gets higher ratings then the left isn't doing a very good job of controlling, is it?

My theory on this is that if you lean left you have MANY options for TV news, TV entertainment, newspapers, magazines etc... So whatever percentage of the population wants left leaning news etc.. it gets very diluted among all the available options.

If you lean right you have some financial and business programs/magazines/papers, FOX, talk radio, and Duck Dynasty. So conservative are way more concentrated in the smaller number of options.

There is very little in the middle.

So you could say the left dominates the available media, but the right dominates the ratings.
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