nyra-to-make-low-takeout-late-pick-5-available-to-all-wagering-customers

[Robert Fischer]

https://www.paulickreport.com/horsep...ing-customers/

[Saratoga_Mike]

Very good move.

[deelo]

This is one of those examples where someone wants credit for doing something they were just supposed to do the whole time

[Robert Fischer]

This is a GREAT thing.

This (AFAIK) was created as an incentive for NYRA-BETS ADW. NYRA-BETS is a good Adw if it's a fit, and they often run the bet200/get200. This was so successful that the love needed to be spread.

I don't care if it's something 'we should've' had already, although Deelo is correct that the game needs more of this. Like Pacman, and James Brown once said "get ready, for the big payback". "I need some get-back".

The Pick-5 has become the horseplayer wager. We also get the mandatory rainbow-6 days, and the Stronach-5, both of which require significant investment in order to cover.

I can spot-play vertical exotics, but when you can't get competitive fields of more than 6 horses on dirt on a regular basis, multi-race horizontal wagers such as the double and pick-3 have been less likely to produce value, even when you have good opinions in those races.

The NYRA-BETS pick-5 is special because of how everything comes together. Five races is enough to leverage the six-horse field, should you have a significant opinion in those races. The field size actually makes the P-5 more playable for a smaller bankroll than the m_rainbow-6/stronach-5. The 15% take, means value if you have significant opinions. it all comes together

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by deelo

This is one of those examples where someone wants credit for doing something they were just supposed to do the whole time

Who "wants" credit?

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by deelo

This is one of those examples where someone wants credit for doing something they were just supposed to do the whole time

If they didn't announce the change, how would we know the bet had been opened up? Come on.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

If they didn't announce the change, how would we know the bet had been opened up? Come on.

I agree.

I'm going to focus 99% of my game on the NYRA Late Pick-5 and see what happens.

One circuit. 15% takeout is 'fair'. We got good racing coming up like the Turf Triple Crown trio Belmont-Derby etc... and c'mon Saratoga


I've been all over the place... Santa Anita... , Finger Lakes, Gulfstream, Churchill, Mountaineer, Parx, Monm, LRL, Suffolk, Beltara?, etc... etc...

My watch list is busier than my email

Really like this wager.

[LemonSoupKid]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

I agree.

I'm going to focus 99% of my game on the NYRA Late Pick-5 and see what happens.

One circuit. 15% takeout is 'fair'. We got good racing coming up like the Turf Triple Crown trio Belmont-Derby etc... and c'mon Saratoga


I've been all over the place... Santa Anita... , Finger Lakes, Gulfstream, Churchill, Mountaineer, Parx, Monm, LRL, Suffolk, Beltara?, etc... etc...

My watch list is busier than my email

Really like this wager.

I'll be chasing the same thing, Robert

Good luck to you, I hope I prove a worthy competitor.

If I'm not mistaken, the NYRA pick 6 wagers, though $2 mins, are also 15%.

[Afleet]

I can understand trying to lure customers to their ADW, but to eliminate a huge piece of the market makes little sense to me. Hopefully they don't end their cross country pick 5 w/Oaklawn

[Rutgers]

Originally Posted by LemonSoupKid

I'll be chasing the same thing, Robert

Good luck to you, I hope I prove a worthy competitor.

If I'm not mistaken, the NYRA pick 6 wagers, though $2 mins, are also 15%.

For what it's worth, the take out on the NYRA Pick 6 is 15% on non-carryover days and 24% on carryover dates. (And it is one of the last "real" Pick 6's)

[LemonSoupKid]

Originally Posted by Rutgers

For what it's worth, the take out on the NYRA Pick 6 is 15% on non-carryover days and 24% on carryover dates. (And it is one of the last "real" Pick 6's)

Interesting ... I wonder what the sweet spot for carryover days/total $ carryover would be then as a result, to make up for the 9% added take. Assuming similar numbers of people play in each scenario (non carryover vs particular day of carryover people shoot for).

Thanks for that interesting, but important, tidbit, Rutgers.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by LemonSoupKid

Interesting ... I wonder what the sweet spot for carryover days/total $ carryover would be then as a result, to make up for the 9% added take. Assuming similar numbers of people play in each scenario (non carryover vs particular day of carryover people shoot for).

Thanks for that interesting, but important, tidbit, Rutgers.

The key is to be able to estimate the new money that will be bet. If a carryover is $240,000 and $1,000,000 of new money is bet then you will have a zero takeout bet. If you record how the past carryovers have drawn play you will soon be able to make reasonably accurate predictions. Do not use results from any other circuit to make your predictions.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by AndyC

The key is to be able to estimate the new money that will be bet. If a carryover is $240,000 and $1,000,000 of new money is bet then you will have a zero takeout bet. If you record how the past carryovers have drawn play you will soon be able to make reasonably accurate predictions. Do not use results from any other circuit to make your predictions.

Loving the HD video on nyra.com. Jockeys have hands? OMG so good




and this all-stakes Pick-5 Saturday is a whopper




Race 8. NERUD S.. GRADE II.
#9PROMISES_FULFILLED is the 2/1 Morning Line Favorite.
Important horse to understand for Saturday.
Last time, in the G I Met Mile, PF stumbled at the start, but it was a mild stumble, and he quickly gathered himself.

[LemonSoupKid]

Originally Posted by AndyC

The key is to be able to estimate the new money that will be bet. If a carryover is $240,000 and $1,000,000 of new money is bet then you will have a zero takeout bet. If you record how the past carryovers have drawn play you will soon be able to make reasonably accurate predictions. Do not use results from any other circuit to make your predictions.

So your argument is a relative 24% take increase regarding the rollover ... interesting.

[LemonSoupKid]

Amazing, Saturday's $.50 pick 5 pays more than the $2 pick 6. Good stuff.