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03-20-2016, 12:32 AM
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Rank the Kentucky Derby Winners Last 20 Years
Title pretty much took care of it.
Rank the Kentucky Derby winners over the last 20 years.
Yea, you can rank just 1, 2, 3, 10 if you want.
Here is your cheat sheet:
1996: Grindstone
1997: Silver Charm
1998: Real Quiet
1999: Charismatic
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus
2001: Monarchos
2002: War Emblem
2003: Funny Cide
2004: Smarty Jones
2005: Giacomo
2006: Barbaro
2007: Street Sense
2008: Big Brown
2009: Mine That Bird
2010: Super Saver
2011: Animal Kingdom
2012: I'll Have Another
2013: Orb
2014: California Chrome
2015: American Pharoah
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03-20-2016, 12:42 AM
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2015: American Pharoah
2014: California Chrome
2006: Barbaro
1997: Silver Charm
1998: Real Quiet
1999: Charismatic
1996: Grindstone
2003: Funny Cide
2004: Smarty Jones
2002: War Emblem
2007: Street Sense
2008: Big Brown
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03-20-2016, 01:09 AM
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1997-Silver Charm-I just thought his win was gutty and awesome as he grinded it out.
2008-Barbaro-I thought the way he took command at 1m and drew off was the clasiest thing I saw in any Derby.
2004-Smarty Jones was fast and he looked good doing it. Lion Heart ran a big race in here.
2013-Orb-I liked what I saw from him winning against different pace situations in Florida and thought he would get a good trip in the Derby and I can definitely deal with 5.4-1 favorites! I admit screwing this up. I started using pedigree ratings this year but didn't do them for the late entrants and Golden Soul was tops for stamina this year. Would have had the ex,tri,and super had I checked.
2015-Bet against American Pharoah every step of the way and got beat. Didn't realize I was witnessing history til Preakness Day. Sense of anticipation after was bubbly.
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03-20-2016, 09:43 AM
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Well iv only been follow since 2003 so here I go...
2015: American Pharoah
2006: Barbaro
2004: Smarty Jones
2014: California Chrome
2008: Big Brown
2007: Street Sense
2003: Funny Cide
2012: I'll Have Another
2011: Animal Kingdom
2013: Orb
2009: Mine That Bird
2010: Super Saver
2005: Giacomo
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03-20-2016, 10:17 AM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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1) Big Brown & 1A) Silver Charm
2) Smarty Jones
3) Barbaro
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03-20-2016, 11:07 AM
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Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Title pretty much took care of it.
Rank the Kentucky Derby winners over the last 20 years.
Yea, you can rank just 1, 2, 3, 10 if you want.
Here is your cheat sheet:
1996: Grindstone
1997: Silver Charm
1998: Real Quiet
1999: Charismatic
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus
2001: Monarchos
2002: War Emblem
2003: Funny Cide
2004: Smarty Jones
2005: Giacomo
2006: Barbaro
2007: Street Sense
2008: Big Brown
2009: Mine That Bird
2010: Super Saver
2011: Animal Kingdom
2012: I'll Have Another
2013: Orb
2014: California Chrome
2015: American Pharoah
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I don't know about ranking but Silver Charm, Big Brown, I'll Have Another, American Pharoah = all jump off the page to me.
Barbaro was pretty amazing as well. Tough to know how good he was.
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03-20-2016, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Title pretty much took care of it.
Rank the Kentucky Derby winners over the last 20 years.
Yea, you can rank just 1, 2, 3, 10 if you want.
Here is your cheat sheet:
1996: Grindstone
1997: Silver Charm
1998: Real Quiet
1999: Charismatic
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus
2001: Monarchos
2002: War Emblem
2003: Funny Cide
2004: Smarty Jones
2005: Giacomo
2006: Barbaro
2007: Street Sense
2008: Big Brown
2009: Mine That Bird
2010: Super Saver
2011: Animal Kingdom
2012: I'll Have Another
2013: Orb
2014: California Chrome
2015: American Pharoah
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Tough to rank because I like looking at their competition too. I don't think Chrome or AP had much competition, but Silver Charm had to fight his eye balls out down the stretch vs some very good horses to win by a neck, head or nose.
#1 Silver Charm (the gutsy colt was a true champion)
#2 Real Quiet (this horse lost the triple crown by a neck, he was chased down by Victory Gallop, & I had Victory Gallop big in the Belmont, every time I watch the replay, I relive the moment to the extreme. Best photo finish I've ever seen)
#3 American Pharaoh (because Baffert trained him & he won the triple crown)
#4 Smarty Jones (great horse & a once in a lifetime for trainer John Servis. My uncle knows Servos, & he told me about this horse back in Dec as a 2 ur old. I bet this horse every time out, & I still can't believe he paid $9 to win in the Rebel, insanity!)
#5 Chrome (another great horse & a great story by the trainer Art Sherman.. Bad competition in 2014 as well just like AP's year.
#6 Barbaro (I wish he be er got hurt, he might gave won the triple crown.)
#7 Big Brown (a monster of a horse to win the derby in only his 4th start)
#8 Funny Cide (although thia horse made me some very nice money in the derby, he wasn't as good as any of the above. This is the type of horse that was ready to peak on derby day & any capper seeing him run against the best horse in Empire Maker that year knew that. Only thing that stopped me from.unloading on him.was the angle of the gelding BS)
#9 Orb (the top 3 finishers in this derby had the numbers to back them. Great exacta & triple. First year the point system was put into play)
#10 War Emblem (till this day, I still think this derby was rigged. This horse went uncontested the whole way around, & Proud Citizen followed, & it wasnt by coincidence he won the derby & Proud Citizen came in second 8 months after 9/11 & the Patriots won the super bowl....coincidence? No way!) If I'm.not mistaken, the silks were red, whirmte & blue, & Espinoza wore the same. War Emblem paid $43 to win, & the exacta returned $1,300, $2 triple $18,000 & a $1 super $92,000
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03-21-2016, 07:54 AM
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Well if we are dealing with winning the Kentucky Derby only and not what they did after, than this is how I will rank them.
1) Monarchos
2) Barbaro
3) Silver Charm
4) Fusaichi Pegasus
5) Charasmatic
6) Smarty Jones
7) Funny Cide
8) Animal Kingdom
9) American Pharoah
10) Real Quiet
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03-21-2016, 08:03 AM
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i liked EMPIRE MAKER, but he didn't win, so i have to go to the horse that beat him.
FUNNYCIDE
AMERICAN PHAROAH
REAL QUIET
WAR EMBLEM
SILVER CHARM
CHARISMATIC
I'LL HAVE ANOTHER
BIG BROWN
MONARCHOS
FUSAICHI PEGASIS
CALIFORNIA CHROME
BARBARO
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03-21-2016, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan
#10 War Emblem (till this day, I still think this derby was rigged. This horse went uncontested the whole way around, & Proud Citizen followed, & it wasnt by coincidence he won the derby & Proud Citizen came in second 8 months after 9/11 & the Patriots won the super bowl....coincidence? No way!) If I'm.not mistaken, the silks were red, whirmte & blue, & Espinoza wore the same. War Emblem paid $43 to win, & the exacta returned $1,300, $2 triple $18,000 & a $1 super $92,000
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War Emblem had green and white silks (Proud Citizen had blue and white ones), and was owned by the Thoroughbred Corporation, an Arabic group. I doubt that, if the powers-that-be wanted to fix the Derby, they would choose that horse to win it.
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03-21-2016, 11:48 AM
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Not only that but war emblems owner wanted to dónate some money and Giuliani told him to f off
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03-21-2016, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Title pretty much took care of it.
Rank the Kentucky Derby winners over the last 20 years.
Yea, you can rank just 1, 2, 3, 10 if you want.
Here is your cheat sheet:
1996: Grindstone
1997: Silver Charm
1998: Real Quiet
1999: Charismatic
2000: Fusaichi Pegasus
2001: Monarchos
2002: War Emblem
2003: Funny Cide
2004: Smarty Jones
2005: Giacomo
2006: Barbaro
2007: Street Sense
2008: Big Brown
2009: Mine That Bird
2010: Super Saver
2011: Animal Kingdom
2012: I'll Have Another
2013: Orb
2014: California Chrome
2015: American Pharoah
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2008
2006
2000
1997
2004
Top 5
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03-21-2016, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lamboguy
i liked EMPIRE MAKER, but he didn't win, so i have to go to the horse that beat him.
FUNNYCIDE
AMERICAN PHAROAH
REAL QUIET
WAR EMBLEM
SILVER CHARM
CHARISMATIC
I'LL HAVE ANOTHER
BIG BROWN
MONARCHOS
FUSAICHI PEGASIS
CALIFORNIA CHROME
BARBARO
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Add point given if you're going that route.
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03-21-2016, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andtheyreoff
War Emblem had green and white silks (Proud Citizen had blue and white ones), and was owned by the Thoroughbred Corporation, an Arabic group. I doubt that, if the powers-that-be wanted to fix the Derby, they would choose that horse to win it.
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Wasn't one of the owners of Point Given the owner of War Emblem. I remember reading that Baffert suggested to the owner they buy War Emblem several weeks before the derby & pretty much Baffert told him he would win him the derby since he didn't the year before with PG.
I Stoll think its very shady how we went to war after 9/11 & the horses name that won was War Emblem, & of course Proud Citizen comes in second.
Anyway, those are my thoughts, take them with a grain of salt.
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03-21-2016, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Secondbest
Not only that but war emblems owner wanted to dónate some money and Giuliani told him to f off
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Of course he told him to f**k off, what was he supposed to do, take money from a guy whose supposed country might have been behind 9/11, how would that look?
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