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10-15-2011, 12:05 PM
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These euro ban rules have GOT to go
this is beyond ridiculous
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Soumillon gets five-day ban and loses prize-money for breaking new whip rules as he won Champion Stakes - more soon at
without that ride he loses to so you think.
AND he loses the prize money!
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10-15-2011, 12:10 PM
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You'll see a jockey shortage soon there.
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10-15-2011, 01:23 PM
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Wow, look how insane this rule is:
"The jockey struck Cirrus Des Aigles six times, one less than the total of seven permitted - but he administered all six strikes inside the final furlong, for which there is a five-strike limit."
(From RP)
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10-15-2011, 01:27 PM
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C'est Tout
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Hughes already turned in his jocks license
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10-15-2011, 01:32 PM
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The lost of prize money appears to be about 80,000 US Dollars. How can crooked (alleged) trainers like Dutrow go on year over year, yet because of one strike of a whip a jock loses 80K, unbelievable.
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10-15-2011, 01:34 PM
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I listened to this, noting Hughes not riding due to the ruling. Excessive whipping is horrific, but too, its usually obvious when done and readily seen by all. There may be lots of problems with this--its over the top.
Those who are not on a horse's back shouldn't be going so far as to dictate how often, and in what distance/length ridden, a horse can be tapped. This is questionable.
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10-15-2011, 01:51 PM
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this is a good rule, and it is great to see them enforcing it.
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10-15-2011, 02:17 PM
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I don't think that it's a bad rule, except the maximum of five times during the final furlong, that goes a bit far in my opinion. Just limiting it to seven throughout the entire race would be better for everyone.
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10-15-2011, 02:46 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Just ban whips period.
Then no one has an advantage.
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10-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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Has anyone considered a desintegrating whip? Five whacks and it's in pieces
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10-15-2011, 03:25 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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The Mission Impossible whip.
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10-15-2011, 04:00 PM
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Question: At what point, in the final drive to the wire, does it become failure to persevere by the jock, when he can't remember if he has struck the animal three, four or five times and stops using the whip?
I can see this happening and the jockey being penalized by the Stewards, or the animal loses at the wire.
Just more Euro Trash horse sh*t. (JMHO)
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10-15-2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruddah
Question: At what point, in the final drive to the wire, does it become failure to persevere by the jock, when he can't remember if he has struck the animal three, four or five times and stops using the whip?
I can see this happening and the jockey being penalized by the Stewards, or the animal loses at the wire.
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Bruddah, I thought this same thing.
"How many times? How many times have I popped your butt now? Oh, man, we're in traffic, I got no clue. C'mon, we're almost home, I may be outta hits."
He gets off the horse, only to fine he's got days, and he's out 80K.
Lord have mercy, bless his heart. 
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10-15-2011, 05:27 PM
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He knew the rules going in. I am not going to cry for him. I think it is a good rule. If you can't get the horse to with 5 whacks, he not going to run with 6 either.
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10-15-2011, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruddah
Question: At what point, in the final drive to the wire, does it become failure to persevere by the jock, when he can't remember if he has struck the animal three, four or five times and stops using the whip?
I can see this happening and the jockey being penalized by the Stewards, or the animal loses at the wire.
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Obviously if the limit is five hits, they're not going to penalize someone for failure to persevere if they hit the horse four times instead. At least you got in your witty line though.
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