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10-16-2011, 08:12 AM
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10-16-2011, 02:23 PM
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easygoer
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Not good news at all
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10-16-2011, 04:16 PM
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Veteran
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The little guy at the bottom gets laid off and the inbred idiot at the top gets a raise. Makes sense, if you're an inbred idiot running the NYRA.
At the end of June, the New York State Franchise Oversight Board released the salaries of NYRA executives, which included raises.
NYRA President and CEO Charles Hayward now makes $475,000 annually, with Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Ellen McClain making $350,000, General Counsel Patrick Kehoe $423,000 and Smukler $265,000.
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10-16-2011, 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruddah
The little guy at the bottom gets laid off and the inbred idiot at the top gets a raise. Makes sense, if you're an inbred idiot running the NYRA.
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I've read some unfortunate stuff on the internet, but this really takes the cake. You should be ashamed of yourself....yet the even sadder thing is you actually likely feel the opposite.
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10-16-2011, 04:50 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruddah
The little guy at the bottom gets laid off and the inbred idiot at the top gets a raise. Makes sense, if you're an inbred idiot running the NYRA.
At the end of June, the New York State Franchise Oversight Board released the salaries of NYRA executives, which included raises.
NYRA President and CEO Charles Hayward now makes $475,000 annually, with Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Ellen McClain making $350,000, General Counsel Patrick Kehoe $423,000 and Smukler $265,000.
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So what you're saying is, that the biggest circuit in the country, with the biggest simulcast handle, isn't allowed to compensate their executives fairly...hmmm....so you're saying they should make less than, say, what the folks running Oaklawn make? What do the folks at Oaklawn make? Do you know?
Are they running that track for free?
Oaklawn is your favorite track, so you should know what the people who run Oaklawn make.
I know, you'll say that Oaklawn is fantastic and that it makes money (don't know if it does or not), and that it draws crowds and how much better the racing is compared to a NYRA track like Sarato....ooops....wait a minute...I take that back...plus you throw Belmont and Aqueduct into the mix....
Tell me again how the salaries of top NYRA execs are not justified? How much simulcast handle does Oaklawn pull in every season? Is everyone around the country clamoring to bet on Oaklawn every year?
Also, what do you figure the ratio is of inbreds in Arkansas vs. New York? When you find out, let me know.
Then again, your signature line says it all, doesn't it?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 10-16-2011 at 05:09 PM.
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10-16-2011, 04:57 PM
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PA Steward
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Here's the reality folks. People get laid off all the time. In every industry, especially during these economic times.
And here's a newsflash. In every one of those companies where lower salaried folks are getting laid off, there are executives at the top making six figures.
But, I get it. This is another thread where all the NYRA bashers can pile on, acting as if NYRA is the only organization where people making hourly wages or earn lower salaries get laid off...
I've gotten laid off in the past, and guess what? The boss at the TOP was STILL making his fat salary! Go figure.
How that makes him an inbred, I'll never figure out. But Bruddah appears to be the expert in that department. Wonder why?
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10-16-2011, 05:01 PM
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PA Steward
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Hey, I just pulled these numbers off of HANA's 2011 chart.
Average Mutuel Pool at Saratoga: $443,527
Average Exotic Pool at Saratoga: $967,031
Average Mutuel Pool at Oaklawn: $130,468
Average Exotic Pool at Oaklawn: $193,314
So the execs at NYRA should be making at least 3-5 times MORE than the execs at Oaklawn.
Something tells me they don't, which means the real overpaid execs are working at Oaklawn, but we won't know for sure until Bruddah gets us those salary figures...
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10-16-2011, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
But, I get it. This is another thread where all the NYRA bashers can pile on,
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Thanks PA, believe I will:
Good job fellas. ‘Bout time for another pay raise isn’t it?
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10-16-2011, 05:50 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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No offense to the custodial staff, but I am sure they do not contribute anywhere near the value to NYRA as the top guys do. Anyone can do a custodial job. How many could run the whole show?
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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10-16-2011, 06:03 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by takeout
Thanks PA, believe I will:
Good job fellas. ‘Bout time for another pay raise isn’t it?
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What an insightful comment.
Let me ask you this. Let's say Genting offers to take over what they are taking over and NYRA had the ability to say "no thanks...we'll keep our own custodial staff on hand as well as all those other unfortunate people who will be losing their job as the result of the Casino opening and Genting taking over those job roles."
You know what you'd be doing? You'd be criticizing NYRA for keeping that staff on hand instead of accepting Genting's offer and saving NYRA money.
So no matter how this went down, you, Jerry Bossert at the Daily News, and every other little armchair NYRA critic would have their say.
It seems in your haste, you and every other NYRA critic missed this part from Bossert's own "article,"
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Resorts World New York will be operated by Genting, which becomes Aqueduct's landlord. The company will use its own staff to clean and care for the building and casino, which is scheduled to open on Oct.28.
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10-16-2011, 07:55 PM
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I would think that the best course of action would be for NYRA to encourage Genting to hire as much of the custodial staff as possible.
To make this a fat cat vs. little guy argument is silly. If the size of the facility that NYRA actually operates is cut in 1/2 it stands to reason that they need only 1/2 the maintainance staff. (In fact the grandstand has been closed for years so I'm surprised that those jobs didn't vanish years ago.)Similarly, if Genting is taking over the parking lots NYRA will not need parking attendents. A friend of mine who is a longtime NYRA employee has already secured a position with Genting. Do you expect them to fire the CEO and Senoir VP but keep on 10 unneeded maintenancemen?
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10-16-2011, 07:55 PM
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I feel bad for those losing their jobs, but this is just another sign of racing going
down the drain.
The casino operator is the landlord not the tennant??
How pitiful. Will they only clean the casino part of the building?
Counting on slots money will lead to the end of racing.
It is a short term fix. All it does is make the tracks lazy once they get the money
and they stop trying to figure out how to get the public to take an interest
in wagering on the outcome of horse races.
This is so painful for me to watch this happen to what has always been
and always will be my favorite sport and thing do.
I can't understand why all slot money tracks get must go to purses.
Why not have betting voucher give-aways?
Why not put together national betting contests that people might take an
interest in. The horsemen & owners give up nothing for slots and get huge purses. The horseplayer is squeezed aside by the casino and ignored and we get nothing???
The continued ignoring and in most cases despising the horseplayer by the game has got it to where it is today.
Track management--I hate them all.
Last edited by Broad Brush; 10-16-2011 at 07:57 PM.
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10-16-2011, 08:31 PM
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PA Steward
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Lovely. Now Broad Brush is already condemning something at NYRA that hasn't even happened yet...
That might be a first...but I doubt it...
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10-16-2011, 08:33 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Broad Brush
I feel bad for those losing their jobs, but this is just another sign of racing going
down the drain.
The casino operator is the landlord not the tennant??
How pitiful. Will they only clean the casino part of the building?
Counting on slots money will lead to the end of racing.
It is a short term fix. All it does is make the tracks lazy once they get the money
and they stop trying to figure out how to get the public to take an interest
in wagering on the outcome of horse races.
This is so painful for me to watch this happen to what has always been
and always will be my favorite sport and thing do.
I can't understand why all slot money tracks get must go to purses.
Why not have betting voucher give-aways?
Why not put together national betting contests that people might take an
interest in. The horsemen & owners give up nothing for slots and get huge purses. The horseplayer is squeezed aside by the casino and ignored and we get nothing???
The continued ignoring and in most cases despising the horseplayer by the game has got it to where it is today.
Track management--I hate them all.
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Do you think the media/reporters will ask why?
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10-16-2011, 08:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jelly
Do you think the media/reporters will ask why?
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How the money is divided, and where it goes, is mandated by State law. This information is actually extremely well documented and easy to find.
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