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07-12-2013, 02:20 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by MarcAtTimeformUS
One of my favorite things we're doing with Craig's toolbox is adjusting race fractions (in running lines) for the speed of the track. You guys can tell me if it's been offered in any product before. In our case, the user has the option of choosing the official Equibase fractions OR "adjusted" fractions that take into account how fast or slow the track was that day. Simply click on a running line, and choose adjusted or official fractions. We're still refining the process but it's a really great way to tell if a horse is getting into condition or not--you can see how his fractions compare to recent fractions he ran in other races. Among other uses.
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So if I click on adjusted, I will see fractional times that are adjusted to use track-track, as is, so say a Belmont line and a Gulfstream line could be compared directly? That would be a huge advantage. I converted CJ figs to times so I could enter them into my velocity program and it worked more than very well.
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07-12-2013, 02:29 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by Tom
So if I click on adjusted, I will see fractional times that are adjusted to use track-track, as is, so say a Belmont line and a Gulfstream line could be compared directly? That would be a huge advantage. I converted CJ figs to times so I could enter them into my velocity program and it worked more than very well.
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Yes, that is exactly it. All "adjusted times" are set to "Mythical Downs" and can be compared across tracks, distances, and surfaces. A 22 is faster than a 23 whether the last 1/4 of a 1 1/2m turf race or the first 1/4 of a 5f dash.
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07-12-2013, 02:33 PM
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nice work CJ and nice call Robert Fischer!
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07-12-2013, 04:26 PM
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C'est Tout
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Y'all picked a doozy for one of today's giveaway races - the 7th at Bel.
Very nice race.
My top fig goes to the #8 Smokin Candy (his last race) who sits at 5-1 ML.
My personal "pace projector" shows a muddled early picture btw the 2-3-5, in that order.
BTW - the adjusted fractions feature is very cool, and something that interests me a lot
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07-12-2013, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Y'all picked a doozy for one of today's giveaway races - the 7th at Bel.
Very nice race.
My top fig goes to the #8 Smokin Candy (his last race) who sits at 5-1 ML.
My personal "pace projector" shows a muddled early picture btw the 2-3-5, in that order.
BTW - the adjusted fractions feature is very cool, and something that interests me a lot
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Going to look at the card from here on out today. The first 4 looked like 3 maiden races with horses that haven't run much at all, and a race with a can't lose chalk.
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07-12-2013, 04:31 PM
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C'est Tout
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Originally Posted by cj
Going to look at the card from here on out today. The first 4 looked like 3 maiden races with horses that haven't run much at all, and a race with a can't lose chalk.
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Race 3?
I bet your pace projector had the #3 out there early - I played him as the odds grew and grew...bet him at 8-1 and he crossed the wire at 16-1 in 2nd place...nice tri payoff
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07-12-2013, 04:39 PM
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I'm not sure, think it may have picked the 2 in front with the 3 nearby.
I'm starting with the 6th, 5th is much like the others.
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07-12-2013, 04:56 PM
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C'est Tout
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Race 6 - Belmont
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Originally Posted by cj
I'm not sure, think it may have picked the 2 in front with the 3 nearby.
I'm starting with the 6th, 5th is much like the others.
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I have been a House On Toilsome sucker in the past, but I will let the best closer in this field beat me today if she's good enough.
Right now I like the #7 Speedy's Gal at 8-1 odds.
sorry CJ - didn't mean to make this a POT picks thread.
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07-12-2013, 05:10 PM
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Belmont R6
Pace Projector:
3-4,9 (Tie) (Fast Pace)
Top last speed figure on surface:
4(87) 7(86) 8(72)
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07-12-2013, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
I have been a House On Toilsome sucker in the past, but I will let the best closer in this field beat me today if she's good enough.
Right now I like the #7 Speedy's Gal at 8-1 odds.
sorry CJ - didn't mean to make this a POT picks thread.
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No worries, good discussion, just like to keep the TimeformUS stuff a part of it.
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07-12-2013, 05:14 PM
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R6
Looks like the 2 has an 86 also
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07-12-2013, 05:21 PM
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Yes, but that was two races back. Like I said yesterday, I'm not trying to say the last figure is that important, just giving a summary.
The 6 ran an 87 two back also.
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07-12-2013, 05:31 PM
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I'll play along
Race 6 My power numbers are 6 7 4 1
Will key #7 9-1
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07-12-2013, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Pace Projector:
3-4,9 (Tie) (Fast Pace)
Top last speed figure on surface:
4(87) 7(86) 8(72)
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did it really just finish - - ?? lol
yes it did. Good job CJ!
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07-12-2013, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zydeco
did it really just finish - - ?? lol
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Yes we are used to that with his numbers.
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