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06-23-2019, 03:44 AM
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If Santa Anita closes...
How does the Stronach group fare if racing no longer exists in Arcadia.
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06-23-2019, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by showonly
How does the Stronach group fare if racing no longer exists in Arcadia.
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that never ending Gulfstream meet is tiresome. Rather see Hialeah reopen. Why does stronach get all the south FL dates?
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06-23-2019, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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After the sale of the property, well they still do what they want.
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06-23-2019, 12:02 PM
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Vancouver Island
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by showonly
How does the Stronach group fare if racing no longer exists in Arcadia.
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Laugh all the way to the bank
Last edited by cj; 06-23-2019 at 03:05 PM.
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06-23-2019, 03:35 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Then they can start working on the historical landmark issue enabling them to make gazillions.
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06-23-2019, 04:49 PM
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$2 Showbettor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: The Villages
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It's a win-win situation for Stronach. If they let things go as is, fine, if the ban racing in CA fine, they can just sell the property and make a fortune.
1000 acres with two units of real estate per acre each paying about $5000 a year in real estate taxes.
Stronach, the government, the developers all make out. The only ones who get screwed are us.
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06-23-2019, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Then they can start working on the historical landmark issue enabling them to make gazillions.
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One thing you can bet money on is that nobody's going to stop a redevelopment of the Santa Anita property based on historic landmark status.
This just never works when there is real money on the table. The best recent example was Soldier Field in Chicago, a bona fide historic landmark. When there were billions of dollars to be made, they tore it apart.
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06-23-2019, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
One thing you can bet money on is that nobody's going to stop a redevelopment of the Santa Anita property based on historic landmark status.
This just never works when there is real money on the table. The best recent example was Soldier Field in Chicago, a bona fide historic landmark. When there were billions of dollars to be made, they tore it apart.
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They tore apart Soldier Field in Chicago? I swear the Packers beat the Bears 24-21 there last September!! I could be wrong.
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06-23-2019, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
One thing you can bet money on is that nobody's going to stop a redevelopment of the Santa Anita property based on historic landmark status.
This just never works when there is real money on the table. The best recent example was Soldier Field in Chicago, a bona fide historic landmark. When there were billions of dollars to be made, they tore it apart.
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Soldier field was rebuilt via maintaing the the historic part of it (the facade, columnades, etc)
I don't care to do the research on what, if any part of SA is on the register, but it surely isn't the track
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06-23-2019, 09:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2019
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Soldier Field lost the historical landmark designation because of those renovations.
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06-23-2019, 09:18 PM
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Bombardier
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by horsefan2019
Soldier Field lost the historical landmark designation because of those renovations.
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Off topic, but that has to be the worst renovation of any modern stadium that I have ever seen. 
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06-23-2019, 09:59 PM
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Handicapper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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The Gulfstream meet is a good product, IMHO. Field size is good. The jockey colony is good. Pools are robust .... when compared to what's available right now. Can't play tracks with small pools.
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06-23-2019, 10:07 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyJet
The Gulfstream meet is a good product, IMHO. Field size is good. The jockey colony is good. Pools are robust .... when compared to what's available right now. Can't play tracks with small pools.
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The pools are kind of phony robust though, playing against a lot of heavily rebated money there.
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06-23-2019, 10:47 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10,614
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
The pools are kind of phony robust though, playing against a lot of heavily rebated money there.
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For at least the last 5 years, Gulfstream has been unplayable for me, from the first week of April to the beginning of December....Don't trust what's supposedly put through the windows there.....Wash, rinse and repeat, dirty to clean.
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06-24-2019, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zydeco
They tore apart Soldier Field in Chicago? I swear the Packers beat the Bears 24-21 there last September!! I could be wrong.
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They basically just kept its shell. If you want to argue the back wall of the SA grandstand will make it into some new structure, fine.
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