Governor CA calls to halt Santa Anita racing

[mountainman]

By remaining open through this maelstrom, Santa Anita has greatly endangered an entire industry.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by mountainman

By remaining open through this maelstrom, Santa Anita has greatly endangered an entire industry.

I beg to differ....If Santa Anita had quickly caved in to the demands of the Cali-lunatic fringe and PETA, this would have immediately emboldened more of the same across the nation with any breakdown at any track....Just sayin'.

[bob60566]

Originally Posted by mountainman

By remaining open through this maelstrom, Santa Anita has greatly endangered an entire industry.

Is the industry afraid of any new medication rules that will or should be enforced nationwide. As San Anita seems to be the leader in that respect so far.

[The_Turf_Monster]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I beg to differ....If Santa Anita had quickly caved in to the demands of the Cali-lunatic fringe and PETA, this would have immediately emboldened more of the same across the nation with any breakdown at any track....Just sayin'.

A suspension of the meet around the time that the media momentum gained, probably around breakdown 14 or 15, with a response that it would do anything and everything up to replacing the entire track.....and it's in the rear view right now. Instead they took the route of publicly blaming the horsemen, who are without a doubt deserved of ridicule for the 'therapeutic' drugs, which caused the media to latch on and say that horses are breaking down due to drugs and greed. This has been a PR issue from day 1 and TSG has failed nearly every step of the way. God forbid we have a breakdown or two this weekend after it refused to suspend the meet and I would be shocked if Del Mar is running its meet

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

I would be shocked if Del Mar is running its meet

I think you've misspoke here.....Not remotely possible.

[mountainman]

[QUOTE=ReplayRandall;2479769]I beg to differ....If Santa Anita had quickly caved in to the demands of the Cali-lunatic fringe and PETA, this would have immediately emboldened more of the same across the nation with any breakdown at any track....Just sayin'.[/QUOTE

Opinion noted. And I don't disagree. But I NEVER said Santa Anita should have caved quickly. At some point, however, discretion should have become the better part of valor. A temporary retreat, a strategic acquiescence, would have better served themselves and the entire industry.


Please have the final word if you are so inclined, sir.

[ReplayRandall]

[quote=mountainman;2479779]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I beg to differ....If Santa Anita had quickly caved in to the demands of the Cali-lunatic fringe and PETA, this would have immediately emboldened more of the same across the nation with any breakdown at any track....Just sayin'.[/QUOTE

Opinion noted.. And I don't disagree. But I NEVER said Santa Anita should have caved quickly. At some point, however, discretion should have become the better part of valor. A temporary retreat, a strategic acquiescence, would have better served themselves and the entire industry.

Please have the final word, if you are so inclined, sir.

We're in agreement here....But they did shutdown the track for a few weeks.

[The_Turf_Monster]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I think you've misspoke here.....Not remotely possible.

I think you failed to read, or comprehend, the qualifier- which I hope we don't see

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

I think you failed to read, or comprehend, the qualifier- which I hope we don't see

It didn't read that way to me.....My bad.

The "comprehend" comment.....Your bad.

[AlsoEligible]

I’ve been pretty pessimistic about the future of CA racing, but even if SA has multiple breakdowns over its final few days, I don’t see any scenario where it causes DM to cancel their meet before it even starts.

Now if Del Mar has a couple breakdowns in its first weekend and all the attention and pressure shifts to them, all bets are off.

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

The media has been complicit in the sense that a whole bunch of dying horses is a completely legitimate news story, which it covered

Do people in the industry seriously believe this stuff? That the public and the media is just supposed to ignore it when horses are dying on the track?

Sweeping under the rug is the preferred action I guess.

And then blame PETA.

I have no doubt there is something wrong with the compressed layer under the top layer of that track that is causing so many musculoskeletal injuries in young horses. They need to fix it and not give the contract to one of the cronies that big jobs usually go to as we all know. The carryover should go towards fixing it. And/or retirement for the horses who run or jockeys disabled fund.

[castaway01]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Opinion noted. And I don't disagree. But I NEVER said Santa Anita should have caved quickly. At some point, however, discretion should have become the better part of valor. A temporary retreat, a strategic acquiescence, would have better served themselves and the entire industry.


Please have the final word if you are so inclined, sir.

I think you're 100% correct. It couldn't have been handled much more poorly. All of the politics aside, the lack of intelligent and consistent decision making at the top (and the fact the breakdowns continue) have made the situation 100 times worse than it had to be.

[horsefan2019]

Originally Posted by clicknow

Sweeping under the rug is the preferred action I guess.

And then blame PETA.

I have no doubt there is something wrong with the compressed layer under the top layer of that track that is causing so many musculoskeletal injuries in young horses. They need to fix it and not give the contract to one of the cronies that big jobs usually go to as we all know. The carryover should go towards fixing it. And/or retirement for the horses who run or jockeys disabled fund.

There isn't one single magical solution to fix the breakdowns. But PETA and those animal activists solution is to shut down the track and eliminate the sport. That doesn't seem like much of a realistic fix does it? Especially considering how popular the sport is around the world, and not just in the US. If those people are interested in a conversation where realistic solutions can be implemented, I'm sure they can meet in the middle. Otherwise we are talking about one side caving in trying to make them happy, which they will never be.

[Redboard]

PETA wasn't always calling for an end to horse racing. This is a recent policy for them. They must have gotten a large donation from a donor who wants to see it end. An LA developer?

[clicknow]

Originally Posted by horsefan2019

PETA and those animal activists solution is to shut down the track and eliminate the sport. That doesn't seem like much of a realistic fix does it? Especially considering how popular the sport is around the world, and not just in the US.

The fatality rate from training & racing at SA is obscene. The track is compromised.

The rest of the world you speak of, although not perfect, has much higher standards.

Keep blaming PETA though.....if you want to talk about greed, Santa Anita track continued to send horses & riders out on to it to train & race, saying the track is safe. Talk about "saying anything to turn a buck" huh?