Feinstein Wants Santa Anita Halted

[alydar]

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/edit...529-story.html

The pressure gets stronger yet!!

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by horsefan2019

You can stop the meet, change the surface over to synthetics, and enact a strict anti-drug policy and they would still not be happy.

Add in the absolute 100% fact that horses will still break down and die, even if everything implemented was working 100% correctly.

It might quickly become an absolute NO-WIN situation.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by airford1

The Wing Direction, Duh. This started with Diane the Bulldog Feinstein

This thread will be shut down in 2 seconds if you guys keep going the politics route. It's not necessary, and it doesn't belong here.

[alydar]

You can criticize Feinstein all you want, but clearly she is responded to what she sees as an issue that her constituents care about. She is a politician after all, she is acting in a way that she sees will benefit herself and her potential voters. This thing is spiraling out of control and where it ends is anyone's guess.

[bks]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

It'd be nice if a little common sense given the spotlight came into play, like not running a 9 year old in a low level claiming race

Game old horse. Favorite of mine.

[The_Turf_Monster]

Originally Posted by bks

Game old horse. Favorite of mine.

Running for the 6th time in 2019......this is the most obvious case of running a horse into the ground to maximize human profit I could imagine

[FenceBored]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

Running for the 6th time in 2019......this is the most obvious case of running a horse into the ground to maximize human profit I could imagine

An average of 28 days between starts and no less than 16 days between any two starts is "the most obvious case of running a horse into the ground to maximize human profit [you] could imagine"?


At this rate he'd have run no more than 12-14 times this year. Aland has already run 14 times this year.


http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...068&registry=T

[The_Turf_Monster]

Originally Posted by FenceBored

An average of 28 days between starts and no less than 16 days between any two starts is "the most obvious case of running a horse into the ground to maximize human profit [you] could imagine"?


At this rate he'd have run no more than 12-14 times this year. Aland has already run 14 times this year.


http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...068&registry=T

Using an anomalie isn't going to rationalize it. You've got an owner/trainer (same person) maximizing what he can out of a horse that ran down the class ladder over 7 seasons to get every last dollar out of it. This is the red meat that activists are going to get ahold of and use to publicize their cause. Racing needs to stop giving this to them

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

I take offense at your characterization of the animal rights people as left wing

what makes them left wing as opposed to right wing animal rights terrorists?

Allan

Let's just say I'm guessing that if you asked their political views on every controversial issue in the country I'd take the "over" on left.

I picture the right wing loons arguing that when a horse's career is over they should be allowed to hunt them for sport.

[Jeff P]

Interesting quote from the LA Times editorial that Alydar linked to back in post #46:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/edit...529-story.html

Consider this public statement: “The fact that horses running in America are five times more likely to suffer a catastrophic injury than horses running at international venues is unacceptable and must immediately change.” Think that’s from an animal welfare group? No, it’s from the Stronach Group, which owns Santa Anita Park. It’s on the group’s website.

-jp

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[PaceAdvantage]

For those who think horse racing is going the way of dog racing, don't bet on it.

There is way too much money involved. Dog racing doesn't generate even a tenth of the handle horse racing generates annually in the USA, and with Florida leaving the picture, fahgettaboudit.

Never mind breeding and sales, the number of people employed by the sport, etc. etc. etc.

Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. That kind of money doesn't go quietly into the night. There are a lot of rich and powerful people involved in the sport of horse racing. And rich and powerful people often get their way.

That's not to say horse racing doesn't need to absolutely 100% clean up its act, and fast. It does.

[The_Turf_Monster]

PA, the way this is going to go is that there will be a ballot initiative in California to ban it, it will pass. At that point we will see decoupling of racinos as the operators will get rid of the racing business via political pressure through the inevitable breakdowns. From there we are left with maybe New York, kentucky, some of Florida, Maryland, Texas, Louisiana and Illinois running on fumes. This is all happening in rapid speed as horse racing has its own internal disagreements preventing change. This will hit the auctions very soon and from there it's a downward spiral. All because SA refused to stop running

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

For those who think horse racing is going the way of dog racing, don't bet on it.

There is way too much money involved. Dog racing doesn't generate even a tenth of the handle horse racing generates annually in the USA, and with Florida leaving the picture, fahgettaboudit.

Never mind breeding and sales, the number of people employed by the sport, etc. etc. etc.

Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. That kind of money doesn't go quietly into the night. There are a lot of rich and powerful people involved in the sport of horse racing. And rich and powerful people often get their way.

That's not to say horse racing doesn't need to absolutely 100% clean up its act, and fast. It does.

Dog racing was probably more important to Florida's economy than horse racing is to California's, and the voters there dumped it anyway.

There are a handful of rich Californians involved in horse racing. Nothing like the past. As a kid I used to see movie stars at the track all the time. I never do anymore- the biggest name I have seen recently was the singer Jewel, who was waiting along with me at the Valet pick-up at Del Mar.

California could totally kill horse racing. Nobody cares about it anymore. Other states are different.

[bob60566]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

For those who think horse racing is going the way of dog racing, don't bet on it.

There is way too much money involved. Dog racing doesn't generate even a tenth of the handle horse racing generates annually in the USA, and with Florida leaving the picture, fahgettaboudit.

Never mind breeding and sales, the number of people employed by the sport, etc. etc. etc.

Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges. That kind of money doesn't go quietly into the night. There are a lot of rich and powerful people involved in the sport of horse racing. And rich and powerful people often get their way.

That's not to say horse racing doesn't need to absolutely 100% clean up its act, and fast. It does.

That maybe the problem over the last two decades.

[elhelmete]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

PA, the way this is going to go is that there will be a ballot initiative in California to ban it, it will pass. At that point we will see decoupling of racinos as the operators will get rid of the racing business via political pressure through the inevitable breakdowns. From there we are left with maybe New York, kentucky, some of Florida, Maryland, Texas, Louisiana and Illinois running on fumes. This is all happening in rapid speed as horse racing has its own internal disagreements preventing change. This will hit the auctions very soon and from there it's a downward spiral. All because SA refused to stop running

name a Calif. racino please.