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07-18-2018, 07:54 PM
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Handicapper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
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Tournaments
Is there a old thread someone can point me to that can explain everything about the different kind of tournaments that are out there? I was just at DRF.com and i'm just overwhelmed by all the tournaments they have listed. Seems there are "tournaments" everyday. Head-to-head tournaments at DRF? And info would be appreciated.
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07-18-2018, 08:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I'll try and post more later but for now...I usually play on 3 sites, drfqualify, horsetourneys and horseplayers. horseplayers is run by horsetourneys and took the place of nhcqualify and bcqualify which were run by drf.
Horseplayers only has NHC and BCBC.
Horsetourneys has some NHC but mainly has all the fantastic brick and mortar events-the Del Mar and Toga plus others.
drf has non-NHC and BCBC such as Del Mar, Toga, Keeneland and their own World Series (play in their free tourneys every Wednesday and most? Thursdays).
Basically, there are low level feeders, qualifiers and main tourneys. Usually, not always, it is feeder>qualifier>Main Tourney and if you win main tourney you have entry to Del Mar's next week 8000 tourney for instance.
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07-18-2018, 08:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyJet
Is there a old thread someone can point me to that can explain everything about the different kind of tournaments that are out there? I was just at DRF.com and i'm just overwhelmed by all the tournaments they have listed. Seems there are "tournaments" everyday. Head-to-head tournaments at DRF? And info would be appreciated.
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What are your questions?
I created this thread last year but it was more general discussion.
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ght=tournament
To me it breaks down into a few categories. This is mythical win place (show)
Head 2 Head...this is very straight forward.
Cash Tourney - play for prizes, usually more than one slot is paid (2nd, 3rd etc) based on number of entries.
Feeders-These have no monetary prize for the winner but gets them into a more expensive feeder or qualifier.
a qualifier gets you into the final round of a tourney. A feeder gets you into the next round on your way to that qualifier.
There is pick and prays, all picks are due before first event.
Live which closes a minute to post.
There are also bankroll games, which you start with a bankroll, which plays like you are at the track making bets trying to earn the most money over your foes.
Lots of options, I think its great.
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07-18-2018, 08:45 PM
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Handicapper
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago
Posts: 574
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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses
I'll try and post more later but for now...I usually play on 3 sites, drfqualify, horsetourneys and horseplayers. horseplayers is run by horsetourneys and took the place of nhcqualify and bcqualify which were run by drf.
Horseplayers only has NHC and BCBC.
Horsetourneys has some NHC but mainly has all the fantastic brick and mortar events-the Del Mar and Toga plus others.
drf has non-NHC and BCBC such as Del Mar, Toga, Keeneland and their own World Series (play in their free tourneys every Wednesday and most? Thursdays).
Basically, there are low level feeders, qualifiers and main tourneys. Usually, not always, it is feeder>qualifier>Main Tourney and if you win main tourney you have entry to Del Mar's next week 8000 tourney for instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nw-G4_bVk
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Thanks for the reply and the music link. That was a nice touch. Thank you as well, GMB@BP.
I guess my focus will be online tournaments. Are there any?
Doing my own research as well. So the credit builder tournaments done by DRF are credits you earn that you can use for entry fees for upcoming tournaments?
I'm with TwinSpires. Do I need a DRF Bets account to play the tournaments listed at DRF.com?
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07-18-2018, 08:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I have been playing heads-up tournaments at Horsetourneys.com...and I am having a ball. The tournament entry fees range from $22 to $1,500...so there is a place there for all kinds of bankrolls. It's the best new development in the game, IMO...and I wish I got into it sooner.
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-- Hermann Hesse
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07-18-2018, 08:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeremyJet
Thanks for the reply and the music link. That was a nice touch. Thank you as well, GMB@BP.
I guess my focus will be online tournaments. Are there any?
Doing my own research as well. So the credit builder tournaments done by DRF are credits you earn that you can use for entry fees for upcoming tournaments?
I'm with TwinSpires. Do I need a DRF Bets account to play the tournaments listed at DRF.com?
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You just need a DRF account, not DRF Bets.
yes many online, main sites are in order of volume
Horsetourneys.com
DerbyWars.com
DRF
all of these are online.
Yes credit builder does exactly that, earns credits which ammounts to money.
There is also breakage, its explained on the sites, but basically its the leftover money when say 7 people entered but the offer is 1 prize for every 5 entries, the breakage is a refund of entry fee to the next 2 players after the final results.
I play feeders and then make money on the breakage to fund more feeders.
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07-18-2018, 09:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I have been playing heads-up tournaments at Horsetourneys.com...and I am having a ball. The tournament entry fees range from $22 to $1,500...so there is a place there for all kinds of bankrolls. It's the best new development in the game, IMO...and I wish I got into it sooner.
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If I had the discipline to play nothing but head to head I could never spend all the money.
Almost impossible to lose.
But I'm always "overclicking" into other games.
Let's meet for a $20 "Texas Chain Match"
$20 on HorseTourneys but for a Steak Dinner at the place of our choice.
Let PA or CJ lay the line.
I'm fine with any of 3 tracks. Saratoga, Del Mar or Gulfstream.
LET'S GET IN ON
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07-18-2018, 09:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,552
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
If I had the discipline to play nothing but head to head I could never spend all the money.
Almost impossible to lose.
But I'm always "overclicking" into other games.
Let's meet for a $20 "Texas Chain Match"
$20 on HorseTourneys but for a Steak Dinner at the place of our choice.
Let PA or CJ lay the line.
I'm fine with any of 3 tracks. Saratoga, Del Mar or Gulfstream.
LET'S GET IN ON
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What's a "Texas Chain Match"...and why can't I find it on the tourney menu?
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"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
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07-18-2018, 09:57 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 11,474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
I have been playing heads-up tournaments at Horsetourneys.com...and I am having a ball. The tournament entry fees range from $22 to $1,500...so there is a place there for all kinds of bankrolls. It's the best new development in the game, IMO...and I wish I got into it sooner.
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Thask pretty much nailed it.
I'm full time HorseTourneys, but DerbyWars has some good stuff as well.
HT will give you free forms. DW doesn't.
HT is limited in its scale of tracks, DW has some others, but is also not fully diverse in its track menu either. (Stronachs)
DW you can chat and talk with your opponents if that is something you would enjoy. I've never been involved in a contest on DW in which smack talking was involved, always more congratulatory in nature. Then again, haven't played there in probably a year or more.
I like the format of HT much better than DW. The layout is just much easier to navigate.
Both are great at Deposit and Withdrawal. Always expect a 2 to 3 day 'delay' if not even a week sometimes on any withdrawal.
Both are pretty good.
Last edited by Lemon Drop Husker; 07-18-2018 at 10:01 PM.
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07-18-2018, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Okay, Vic...here are my rule suggestions:
We'll bet heads-up on the races at Gulfstream...and I'll leave the entry fee selection up to you. I'd agree with your "steak dinner" idea...but I wouldn't know where to send the money.
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"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
Last edited by thaskalos; 07-18-2018 at 10:05 PM.
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07-18-2018, 10:15 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10,614
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Okay, Vic...here are my rule suggestions:
We'll bet heads-up on the races at Gulfstream...and I'll leave the entry fee selection up to you. I'd agree with your "steak dinner" idea...but I wouldn't know where to send the money.
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Send the money?....Like that'll ever happen when you lose...
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07-18-2018, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,552
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
Send the money?....Like that'll ever happen when you lose...
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Hey...I offered to pay you in monthly installments...and you refused.
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"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
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07-18-2018, 10:19 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Hey...I offered to pay you in monthly installments...and you refused.
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Don't play if you can't pay.
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07-18-2018, 10:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,552
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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Don't play if you can't pay.
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Sorry...I had never lost before, and wasn't prepared for it.
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"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
Last edited by thaskalos; 07-18-2018 at 10:25 PM.
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07-18-2018, 10:27 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 11,474
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Sorry...I never lost before, and wasn't prepared for it.
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Gotta saying in my neck of the woods.
COBH.
Cash On Barrel Head; or you aren't playing.
No IOU's, but Cash Vouchers do play well.
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