|
12-30-2014, 07:57 PM
|
#2
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,427
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob S.
|
I loved his breeding, and thought he could be a great one. Of course he acquired hoof problems, and then Pletcher got a hold of him. QR was breathing fire while he was at Gulfstream prior to the Derby. When he raced under Pletcher later that year in New York his demeanor was completely different. He looked unsure of himself on the track. I just think Pletcher has a certain way he trains his runners and it didn't bring out the best in QR. Pletcher always trained him to be rated. I think most times that's what's best. I think in Quality Road's case it gelded him... he wanted to be the stud and the boss of the herd. LOL he still won some big races while not being able to show his best... I liked the Strawberry Road Mare over Elusive Quality. I just thought it made a nice combination. It gave a horse with Quality Roads speed more points in the classic aptitude in Dr. Romans breeding theory. Which is a rarity. He didn't need to be restrained. He just needed to be taught to relax on the lead instead of being trained to stalk.... He will produce some great horses...
|
|
|
12-30-2014, 08:56 PM
|
#3
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,829
|
He had the anomaly of Hootenanny winning the BC Juvy Turf, which really boosted his progeny earnings.
|
|
|
12-31-2014, 10:15 AM
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 177
|
Hootenanny may have been an anomaly, but no other Freshman Sire came close to producing a superstar 2-year-old the likes of him.
|
|
|
12-31-2014, 11:39 AM
|
#5
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandpit
He had the anomaly of Hootenanny winning the BC Juvy Turf, which really boosted his progeny earnings.
|
not sure if winning a big money race is an anomaly, everyone had a chance to enter and win. Hootenanny is a really good horse and Quality Road is a really good sire.
He deserves number one First crop sire.
Allan
|
|
|
12-31-2014, 11:52 AM
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob S.
|
Bob,
good article, one quibble however, Blofeld hasn't run on grass or synthetic, so we really don't know if he prefers dirt, Synthetic or Grass.
His third dam is Minstrella who won g1's in Europe on grass.
Blofeld could be exactly like quality road, never races on the grass because he's so good on dirt.
Allan
|
|
|
12-31-2014, 12:33 PM
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 177
|
Thank you Allan. I agree-he could be a better runner on the lawn. We probably won't know for a while, if we ever do.
|
|
|
01-01-2015, 11:27 AM
|
#8
|
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
|
Final totals for first crop sires
quality road 44 starter 18 winners $1,572,480
super saver 57 starter 16 winners $1,547,113
Quality road had the winner in the 5th at GP Starry road $24, whilst the best SS could do was a chalky 3rd in Laurel's first yesterday.
Allan
|
|
|
01-05-2015, 07:57 AM
|
#10
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 177
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bisket
I loved his breeding, and thought he could be a great one. Of course he acquired hoof problems, and then Pletcher got a hold of him. QR was breathing fire while he was at Gulfstream prior to the Derby. When he raced under Pletcher later that year in New York his demeanor was completely different. He looked unsure of himself on the track. I just think Pletcher has a certain way he trains his runners and it didn't bring out the best in QR. Pletcher always trained him to be rated. I think most times that's what's best. I think in Quality Road's case it gelded him... he wanted to be the stud and the boss of the herd. LOL he still won some big races while not being able to show his best... I liked the Strawberry Road Mare over Elusive Quality. I just thought it made a nice combination. It gave a horse with Quality Roads speed more points in the classic aptitude in Dr. Romans breeding theory. Which is a rarity. He didn't need to be restrained. He just needed to be taught to relax on the lead instead of being trained to stalk.... He will produce some great horses...
|
You're right-all that was needed was to teach him to relax on the lead-he somehow may have been even a more dominant horse.
|
|
|
01-05-2015, 10:09 AM
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,043
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob S.
You're right-all that was needed was to teach him to relax on the lead-he somehow may have been even a more dominant horse.
|
Based on my memories of him....... I thought Quality road was a "head case"....not sure he could be "taught" anything!
|
|
|
01-06-2015, 07:49 AM
|
#12
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,222
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob S.
You're right-all that was needed was to teach him to relax on the lead-he somehow may have been even a more dominant horse.
|
Pletcher tried to teach him to rate, and the result was a dismal BC run. Sometimes you have to let speed horses be speed horses. It's a weapon, after all.
|
|
|
01-06-2015, 12:11 PM
|
#13
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 310
|
Only a couple of trainers have figured that part out. Baffert and Lukas have never had a problem in just letting them run.
|
|
|
01-08-2015, 09:44 AM
|
#14
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 177
|
This is very true. Why not just let them run; for many this is the style that fits them. Look at Take Charge Brandi for example. They tried to rate her and she failed.
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|