The coronavirus

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

TDS

His time was up even without the so-called "perpetrators" of this scam murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents to win an election.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

His time was up even without the so-called "perpetrators" of this scam murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents to win an election.

Wut?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Wut?

Not only did your moron blow a rational response to the pandemic, but what he did beforehand, sunk his leaky ship. Read the "Official Trump Collapsing Thread". The absolute worst president in my lifetime.

Maybe you should jump start the "Official Biden Collapsing Thread"?

But getting back to my question. Who are the perpetrators, and how did they manage to pull this gigantic scam off?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

But getting back to my question. Who are the perpetrators, and how did they manage to pull this gigantic scam off?

I already told you. TDS

That's why YOUR RESPONSE made no sense...thus the WUT?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I already told you. TDS

That's why YOUR RESPONSE made no sense...thus the WUT?

I asked specifically who they were, and specifically how they managed to convince the majority of doctors, nurses,, health care professionalizes and many epidemiologists all over the world, to participate in this scam?

"TDS" is a vague catch phrase coined by Donald to defend himself from criticism. And can more easily be used to describe loyal Trunpites who are the delusional victims of this so-called "syndrome"

[delayjf]

The absolute worst president in my lifetime.

Where I have heard this before - I think I know where.

The perpetrators are the democrats / progressives, etc. who have conspired with the Chinese to bring this pandemic to the US for the sole purpose of bringing down the economy and thus sway the election.

Now, can you just imagine how bad this pandemic would have been had Trump waited till after 10 months and 1000 deaths, like Obama, before shutting down flights from China? Practically everybody over 80 would be dead. On a positive note, the cost of senior living homes would have dropped thru the floor.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by delayjf

Where I have heard this before - I think I know where.

The perpetrators are the democrats / progressives, etc. who have conspired with the Chinese to bring this pandemic to the US for the sole purpose of bringing down the economy and thus sway the election

Conspired with the Chinese?
Guess Joe Biden and his son Hunter, Hilary and Obama planned it years ago right after yiourf royal schmuck barely won the 2016 election?

Was Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter also involved? Damn, from the way George W. is talking, he must have had a hand in it too. Colin Powell, and the Lincoln Project, the never Trumpers?

Probably the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers worked covertly with George Sors, and the sneaky globalists! All controlled by mastermind Bill Gates.

I guess I should know better than to expect a serious response from tin foil hat aficionados.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by hcap

Without delving into the actual studies, which is better surveyed by 46zilzal, than me, why do you and the other pandemic minimizers herre suppose Harvey Risch and a few others, are not being listened too? And why is not not used actively as an effective treatment?

If you listened to him, he said there is corruption and politicization involved.

Only the studies that show it doesn't work are being promoted by the media when there are also studies that show it does work when used with the right combination of drugs, in the right dosages, and soon enough after exposure.

Most of the studies that show it does not work have not followed that protocol or have since been discredited entirely.

The media is either too ignorant to understand the difference or is withholding that information for political reasons. In turn, he's saying the media coverage is influencing many doctors who are not getting a balanced view of the data. They are attacking him privately for promoting the treatment based on their misunderstandings of what all the studies are showing.

Now it's up up to you decide whether you believe the Yale doctor that's putting his reputation on the line going against conventional wisdom or whether you believe CNN, MSNBC, NY Times etc.. and other doctors that do seem to hate Trump and anything he promotes.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by hcap

"TDS" is a vague catch phrase coined by Donald to defend himself from criticism.

Charles Krauthammer had nothing to do with it eh.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

I asked specifically who they were, and specifically how they managed to convince the majority of doctors, nurses,, health care professionalizes and many epidemiologists all over the world, to participate in this scam?

"TDS" is a vague catch phrase coined by Donald to defend himself from criticism. And can more easily be used to describe loyal Trunpites who are the delusional victims of this so-called "syndrome"

There are no specific theys...but a large group of afflicted individuals who will do anything and everything they can (this includes you by the way) if it means taking Trump down yet another notch.

Many of these people are in positions of power and influence.

It's basically an entire system at work.

[davew]

Originally Posted by hcap

Not only did your moron blow a rational response to the pandemic, but what he did beforehand, sunk his leaky ship. Read the "Official Trump Collapsing Thread". The absolute worst president in my lifetime.

Maybe you should jump start the "Official Biden Collapsing Thread"?

But getting back to my question. Who are the perpetrators, and how did they manage to pull this gigantic scam off?

Dipsht Biden says he would be much better in a pandemic. Joe and 0bama killed the H1N1 practically overnight.

Joe's 7 point pandemic plan are things Trump is already doing.

Joe will also have 100 million doses of Pfizer wuhan virus vaccine that Trump contracted.

[jay68802]

Originally Posted by davew

Dipsht Biden says he would be much better in a pandemic. Joe and 0bama killed the H1N1 practically overnight.

Joe's 7 point pandemic plan are things Trump is already doing.

Joe will also have 100 million doses of Pfizer wuhan virus vaccine that Trump contracted.

Joe can't count to 7. He is a mouthpiece. A hired actor to play the part of a "president". He does not give a shit about you or me, or anyone else. He would **** a raccoon if it meant his family will make some money. This guy and Trump are your choices. Great choice, at least Trump still can make his own decisions.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by jay68802

Joe can't count to 7. He is a mouthpiece. A hired actor to play the part of a "president". He does not give a shit about you or me, or anyone else. He would **** a raccoon if it meant his family will make some money. This guy and Trump are your choices. Great choice, at least Trump still can make his own decisions.

What I really like is how many times he has made calls that the Bilderberg Group is diametrically opposed to because of globalization. The vast majority of these people live outside these United States. In 2016 globalization versus anti globalization played into that election more than the average person would think.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

If you listened to him, he said there is corruption and politicization involved.

Only the studies that show it doesn't work are being promoted by the media when there are also studies that show it does work when used with the right combination of drugs, in the right dosages, and soon enough after exposure.

Most of the studies that show it does not work have not followed that protocol or have since been discredited entirely.

The media is either too ignorant to understand the difference or is withholding that information for political reasons. In turn, he's saying the media coverage is influencing many doctors who are not getting a balanced view of the data. They are attacking him privately for promoting the treatment based on their misunderstandings of what all the studies are showing.

Now it's up up to you decide whether you believe the Yale doctor that's putting his reputation on the line going against conventional wisdom or whether you believe CNN, MSNBC, NY Times etc.. and other doctors that do seem to hate Trump and anything he promotes.

No, there are studies published saying it does work. Here's one out of many.

How come it and the others were not suppressed by Democratic-Socialist evildoers?

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows
https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...reatment-study

Just as there are plenty of studies claiming the consensus on climate change is wrong. And they are not suppressed. Throughout history there have been the NIH (not invented here) old guard, that refused AT FIRST to consider novel theories. However science evolves. In science, a theory gets superseded when a scientific consensus once widely accepted it, and current science considers it an inadequate.

You folks are spouting a variation on "there was a carburetor invented to run on water, but the auto makers covered it up", instead of considering things like peer-review and verification of theories proposed by a few, double checked by many other, slowly evolving into a consensus

Sure, science and medicine proceed slowly and Murphy's Law of Universal F***k-Up prevails there, and in every walk of life including research and development in all sciences,....but evidently so do extremely convoluted conspiracy theories running rampant in the UN-united states of Trumplandia.

Your intricately woven premise requires, not only the majority of the health care professionals and epidemiologists to have been persuaded by some "nebulous covert evildoers", out to get Trump, but these evildoers also to have corrupted the CDC, the WHO, John Hopkins, and a huge swath of universities and colleges to buy into these evildoers secretive plot! Hundreds of thousands of otherwise, I would think, normal people to swallow a giant crock.

Ok, I will let you folks all feel good that your moron is not sinking his presidency all by himself, and let you guys spin your absurd theories stroking each other into oblivion without further interruption.

Play among yourselves.

[RunForTheRoses]

Good David Stockman article questioning the popular narrative.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/...at-masked-man/

Moreover, there is no real mystery as to why the curve is (thankfully) plunging to the lower right of the chart and heading right off the page. This virus like other virulent influenza’s strikes the weakest and most vulnerable population first, and thereafter tends to meet its match as the immune systems of the healthier parts of the population join the battle.

By the same token, there is no “second wave” crisis in the so-called hot spot areas of the Sunbelt, either. Like in the case of New York, the virus is simply moving through the population in a time frame that is a month or two lagged relative to the original contagion’s spread in the Northeast; and, again, it is meeting its match in the immune systems of the healthier parts of the population.

The proof for that is straightforward and is measured by the hospitalization rate per new case. The latter has plunged from 15-20% in the early days of the contagion in these new so-called hot spot states, but is now in the low single digits. The data for new cases, hospitalizations and the hospitalization ratio for the first 20 days of July includes the following::

In a word, hospitalization rates of 3-6% are not indicative of a public health crisis or a dread disease laying waste to the population. In fact, they are only slightly above the hospitalization rates for normal winter influenza.