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06-17-2021, 07:38 AM
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#7306
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 79
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Rick, just kidding - I mean Greg
Question for you on Best 5.
Does 1-2-3 method or Top E1 E2 require all scratches regardless of the race to be entered?
So lets say I already decided I will not play Race 1 because maybe it doesn't meet my initial requirements. But I want to play Race 2.
Do I need to make the scratches in Race 1, in order 1-2-3 and E1/E2 to be accurate for Race #2? Or does 1-2-3 and E1/E2 evaluate the specific race only?
Same question for Platinum spot plays...
Does that make sense?
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06-17-2021, 08:02 AM
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#7307
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 590
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you got me wrong pardner look back a few posts your rick crop circles why dont you buy somthing
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06-17-2021, 08:30 AM
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#7308
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkey11
you got me wrong pardner look back a few posts your rick crop circles why dont you buy somthing
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I don't know what any of this means.
All I know is Greg called me Rick twice, which isn't my name so I jokingly called him Rick.
Everything else you said makes no sense to me.
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06-17-2021, 09:50 AM
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#7309
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 590
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of course it dosent because i never make sence its just a joke is all
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06-17-2021, 11:35 AM
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#7310
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,953
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Sometimes I go a couple weeks between sales...other times I sell 6 in one day (okay, rarely but it happens). I had 3 or 4 people I was talking with and had you confused with another person.
I believe you want to know if you will get the same selections--whether you enter scratches or not. Unless the scratches are from a particular race you are considering...makes no difference.
1-2-3 will not consider the scratched horses, but does evaluate & rate all races on the card. Same as E-1 E-2.
Platinum can rate races individually-or the entire card at once.
Hope that answered your question...if any other Q's, call me for a quick answer.
Best,
-Greg
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06-17-2021, 12:00 PM
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#7311
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,953
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Here are the stats from previous Woodbine races that were contained in this programmer's data base. I know as much as you about the exact dates this info was gathered. I can only say it's recent and not several years old.
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06-17-2021, 04:50 PM
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#7312
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,953
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You know I've been here a while, and have connections all over--some legal, some not. I like to look at older programs--some are I would call "Brilliant"...most I would call "Garbage".
Anyway my confidant sent me a program he said was Handiman's first software program. So I had my friend send a copy over.
The very first page---the first LINE....said
HANDIFAST HHX Ver 2.2 INSTRUCTIONS
"Remember, This Is Not A Black Box. But A Handicapping Tool!!!"
WELL WHOOP DE DOO. I got 45 handicapping tools--I want a black box, dammit.
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06-17-2021, 06:46 PM
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#7313
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,953
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...and a report from Mardi Gras King, and part-time bait-shop clerk Mr Green, who keeps tabs on Louisiana racing.
He had this to say:
"At LAD since the beginning of meet, every race, every day
Platinum Power #'s 185 races, 56 wins (30%) for a total of $ 365.40 (avg $2 win mutual $6.53)
Bris Prime #'s 191 races 57 wins (30%) for a total of $257.20 (avg $2 win mutual $4.51)
As you see your Platinum power numbers have have the same win percentage as the BRIS #'s but the winners pay 45% more than the average bris winner. The power numbers are almost a break even, beating the track take out.
I have found that once you reach 200 races the numbers don't change much. If you are a little selective with the power numbers and don't bet heavy favorites you will be well into the plus column betting the power numbers at LAD."
Thanks Mike--you're a prince.
-NCG
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06-17-2021, 07:21 PM
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
Posts: 3,917
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalGreg
Anyway my confidant sent me a program he said was Handiman's first software program. So I had my friend send a copy over.
The very first page---the first LINE....said
HANDIFAST HHX Ver 2.2 INSTRUCTIONS
"Remember, This Is Not A Black Box. But A Handicapping Tool!!!"
WELL WHOOP DE DOO. I got 45 handicapping tools--I want a black box, dammit.
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If you start taking shots at Handiman or the FREE Handifast software the gloves come off. Be careful where you step; you already insulted me but Handi has given much time and effort to provide a useful tool. Black boxes don't exist, especially the $50 kind.
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06-17-2021, 07:25 PM
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#7315
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 590
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well NCG i did a 1 card check on the WO numbers and without any capping just using the top power number i got 3 winners of 8 races one paying 11 dollars other 2 payed 5 and 3.60 seems like the platinum numbers are similar so they are working ok keep up the bad work GL to all ps by the way i just want the camra they used on the twilight zone thanks
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06-17-2021, 08:56 PM
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#7316
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 37
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No Black Box is True
So I have the Platinum Power program and I do appreciate the ease of use. I only fool around with the horses to pass the time, so I have come to realize, that there is not a black box out there. Past Performances don’t mean squat 2/3 of the time. I have also come to realize, there is not any money to be made in the horses betting single races to win. It is in the exacta, trifecta, pick 2’s, 3’s, etc. One must “invest” the time and money to hit these combinations as there will be many more losing races than wins. Why I am saying this, I have no preconceived notion that there is a holy grail of handicapping software or true system out there. I do enjoy NCG posting various tracks and showing his software off. Given all that I have read in these forums the past 12 months, nobody else has a software program that is better than NCG’s for the price. Not plugging for him as I do not even know NCG, but if you are looking for some nice inexpensive programs to try, there are not too many that have better results. Or the people who have better programs are keeping it to themselves. Thanks for letting me rant. And do not shoot the messenger.
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06-17-2021, 10:31 PM
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#7317
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Authorized Advertiser
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 7,953
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Headhogg knows I was making a joke...wanna be tough guys get brave behind their keyboard.
Handi's your good friend, huh? When he was way down and had to suffer the indignity of asking the members here to help out with his medical bills...I guarantee you didn't send him a nickel. Ask how much I sent him.
Now you wanna take a joke and pretend "the gloves are coming off"?
Now that's a joke.
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06-17-2021, 11:22 PM
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#7318
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
Posts: 3,917
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Keep trying to cover your ass. That was no joke. Anyone following your comments on this board knows exactly what I am talking about. You're like the guy who has the smart mouth and picks the fight and cries "No no no...it's not me...I didn't do nuthin' " and expects others to clean up the mess. You can't even get names straight. Come to Chicago. Bring your best game.
Supporting you is like donating to the political party that you hate. But people can do what ever they want. There's a sucker born every minute.
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06-17-2021, 11:37 PM
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#7319
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 1
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there is a sucker born in chi-town every 23 seconds. Who would want to visit that dumpster fire town ever
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06-17-2021, 11:47 PM
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#7320
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10,614
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Quote:
Originally Posted by headhawg
Keep trying to cover your ass. That was no joke. Anyone following your comments on this board knows exactly what I am talking about. You're like the guy who has the smart mouth and picks the fight and cries "No no no...it's not me...I didn't do nuthin' " and expects others to clean up the mess. You can't even get names straight. Come to Chicago. Bring your best game.
Supporting you is like donating to the political party that you hate. But people can do what ever they want. There's a sucker born every minute.
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Crusty, Crusty, Crusty.....What do you think about Greg's joke?....That's all it was, maybe not a great one, but a joke none the less.
So why the flame-on?...Can't possibly be what Greg said, maybe something else? C'mon guy, Greg doesn't need to "cover his ass" unless you're speaking in some kind of code. Neither one of you is a light-weight, so just move on.
Lighten up, relax and get that Tourney started that you promised. People are looking forward to it, they don't want to see you in a downer mood for no good reason....Let's go.
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