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04-08-2018, 11:33 AM
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Censorship Looms - Feds to track media
Fake news? Bah! The Feds have got your back!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homelan...a-influencers/
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The Department of Homeland Security posted a contract request this week for "Media Monitoring Services," which will compile a database of hundreds of thousands of journalists, bloggers and "media influencers" for the federal government. After an outcry on social media, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman tweeted "this is nothing more than the standard practice of monitoring current events in the media."
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When a government pinhead tells me not to worry, I begin to worry.
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DHS spokesman Tyler Q. Houlton tweeted that "despite what some reporters may suggest," this is "standard."
"Any suggestion otherwise is fit for tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter conspiracy theorists," Houlton wrote.
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Standard? Allow me to adjust my tin foil hat.
For those of you who need help connecting the dots, Karl Denninger wrote up a fine summary of what this really means. He's definitely on the "black helicopter list".
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/...ww?post=233277
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Online within 5 business days of handing out the contract which means it already has been built and is operating right now, but you haven't been told one thing about this, there has been no public debate or disclosure, and someone, or a bunch of someones, already have it running and vacuuming up the data -- including the mobile component complete with push notifications.
In other words the option to stop this through peaceful political activity has already expired, the weapon has already been built, tested and is in use right now, almost-certainly by multiple parties without any disclosure or political debate. The scope of work laid forth constitutes tens if not hundreds of man-years of effort at minimum; it is not a trivial undertaking.
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Scary. The boiling frog approach is effective these days.
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04-08-2018, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate
Standard? Allow me to adjust my tin foil hat.
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It is standard for Big Brother. If you do or say anything in public or via any means of external communication, you should assume it can be monitored.
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already has been built and is operating right now
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Odds on favorite in this race is Amazon.
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A man's got to know his limitations. -- Dirty Harry
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04-08-2018, 01:17 PM
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PA Steward
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So, what is it exactly that they will be monitoring/collecting?
Publicly available data?
What else could it be?
And if it's publicly available data, who cares?
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04-08-2018, 01:25 PM
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don't worry Parkview, dhs already has every keystroke of ours in their massive computer...
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04-08-2018, 01:28 PM
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04-08-2018, 01:29 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
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This deserves its own thread I would think
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04-08-2018, 01:44 PM
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This appears to be a quite different situation.
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Federal agencies have shut down Backpage.com, a website of classified ads accused of enabling child sex trafficking.
A disclaimer posted to the website on Friday says agencies that included the FBI, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division and the U.S. Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Division have seized Backpage.com and its affiliated websites.
Federal law-enforcement officers also raided the Arizona homes of two of the site's co-founders, Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin, The Arizona Republic reported.
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04-08-2018, 07:53 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Never trust the government.
Good rule to live by.
No government EVER has the well being of its citizens as a priority.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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04-08-2018, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Never trust the government.
Good rule to live by.
No government EVER has the well being of its citizens as a priority.
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You are a brave man to say this at a time when the government is attempting to monitor the "social media". 
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04-08-2018, 09:06 PM
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Just Deplorable
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But let's federalize horse racing, 'cause that's different.
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04-08-2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rastajenk
But let's federalize horse racing, 'cause that's different.
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Horse racing is in a suicidal state anyway, so...does it really matter if the government takes over the reigns?
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04-08-2018, 10:26 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Because horse racing is far too irresponsible to regulate itself.
you have to be really bad to benefit from government regulation, but racing could not help but do better with it.
Racing is run by total incompetents who do not have the betting public at heart. they are not fir to run the business of gambling.
Sad, but true.
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04-09-2018, 02:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
So, what is it exactly that they will be monitoring/collecting?
Publicly available data?
What else could it be?
And if it's publicly available data, who cares?
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Connect the dots.
Why does .GOV need to monitor public free speech?
(Hint - it's not to protect the 1st Amendment.)
(Second hint - think about what can be done with data that identifies "undesirables", or deplorables )
(third hint - when the Nazis came to power in 1933, they had ready lists of communists, union figures, Jews, and others to reference when deciding who to crack down on. The "Night of the Long Knives" is heading our way.)
We've seen Youtube restrict gun demo videos, and .GOV repeal net neutrality.
PA, how soon do you think it'll be before they shut YOU down? (or at least make you toggle off Tom's account....)
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04-09-2018, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Tom? Tom?
Where did he go?
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04-09-2018, 12:05 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate
Connect the dots.
Why does .GOV need to monitor public free speech?
(Hint - it's not to protect the 1st Amendment.)
(Second hint - think about what can be done with data that identifies "undesirables", or deplorables )
(third hint - when the Nazis came to power in 1933, they had ready lists of communists, union figures, Jews, and others to reference when deciding who to crack down on. The "Night of the Long Knives" is heading our way.)
We've seen Youtube restrict gun demo videos, and .GOV repeal net neutrality.
PA, how soon do you think it'll be before they shut YOU down? (or at least make you toggle off Tom's account....)
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What law ever said they couldn't monitor public free speech?
Hell, they're monitoring PRIVATE emails and phone calls in the name of stopping terrorism, are they not?
And you're worried about them monitoring PUBLIC information/people?
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