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04-19-2018, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
If enough people voted third party, candidates would be dropping in the streets like flies.
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you missed a good Hillary meme pic in your post.
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04-21-2018, 04:33 PM
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#302
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by tucker6
you missed a good Hillary meme pic in your post.
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Just think, this could have been our president. What a loss.
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04-24-2018, 01:12 PM
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#303
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04-24-2018, 02:08 PM
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#304
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
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Was this ever in doubt? China has more to lose than us. I know some doubt this, but Trump is no dummy.
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04-25-2018, 08:13 PM
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#305
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Location: New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by tucker6
Was this ever in doubt? China has more to lose than us. I know some doubt this, but Trump is no dummy.
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Some of the sky is falling folks here are so upset because a President uses all the tools available when no other President was successful previously. It is like outrage that will grow into hallucinations if President Donald J. Trump actually accomplish something.
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05-01-2018, 10:14 AM
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#306
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Backs down again...
Grants another 30 day extension while exempting even more countries like Argentina, Australia, and Brazil.
Trump delays metal tariffs on Canada, EU, Mexico, exempts some others
Whats interesting here is exemptions can be granted on the basis of "national security" since that's the impetus for sanctions... however... Argentina...? Brazil...? But not the EU?
More to that... Trump apparently is very upset that he can't negotiate bilaterally with EU members... apparently the concept of Trade Bloc is foreign to him.
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05-01-2018, 10:30 AM
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#307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Grants another 30 day extension while exempting even more countries like Argentina, Australia, and Brazil.
Trump delays metal tariffs on Canada, EU, Mexico, exempts some others
Whats interesting here is exemptions can be granted on the basis of "national security" since that's the impetus for sanctions... however... Argentina...? Brazil...? But not the EU?
More to that... Trump apparently is very upset that he can't negotiate bilaterally with EU members... apparently the concept of Trade Bloc is foreign to him.
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You act surprised that concessions made by foreign countries are being met with a relaxation of tariffs.
As for the EU trade bloc thingy, I'm pretty sure that is #fakenews. Trump probably has more experience in int'l business than all members on this forum combined. I find it humorous when people want to believe the worst about Trump so much that they let common sense go out the window.
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05-01-2018, 10:32 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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For someone who is opposed to the tarrifs, you seem to trying to have it both ways. You should be glad he is backing off some.
He is bad for doing it and for not doing it enough.
Your agenda is clear.
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05-01-2018, 10:37 AM
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#309
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Originally Posted by tucker6
You act surprised that concessions made by foreign countries are being met with a relaxation of tariffs.
As for the EU trade bloc thingy, I'm pretty sure that is #fakenews. Trump probably has more experience in int'l business than all members on this forum combined. I find it humorous when people want to believe the worst about Trump so much that they let common sense go out the window.
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What concessions?
He opened this can of worms and is now walking not some... but essentially all of it back.
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05-01-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
What concessions?
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In a statement, the White House said the details of the deals with Brazil, Argentina and Australia would be finalized shortly, and it did not disclose terms.
Maybe keep your powder dry until we know.
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05-01-2018, 10:41 AM
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#311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
For someone who is opposed to the tarrifs, you seem to trying to have it both ways. You should be glad he is backing off some.
He is bad for doing it and for not doing it enough.
Your agenda is clear.
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My agenda here is to point out that the guy clearly has no idea what he is doing. That his policy is moronic and that he is simply pandering to the lower IQ voter that thinks everything is #winning.
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Originally Posted by March 8th
What's going to be funny is when the EU gets it's exemption...
This will be a big nothing-burger in terms of policy at that point.
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Originally Posted by March 8th
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If you supported the policy when he first introduced it like all of you did then surely you must turn on him now right...? Selling us out to the globalists right...? Of course not...
Last edited by elysiantraveller; 05-01-2018 at 10:55 AM.
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05-01-2018, 10:43 AM
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#312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tucker6
In a statement, the White House said the details of the deals with Brazil, Argentina and Australia would be finalized shortly, and it did not disclose terms.
Maybe keep your powder dry until we know.
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If they were #maga they would be releasing them instead of hoping until the next cycle kills the story.
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05-01-2018, 10:47 AM
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#313
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Just think, this could have been our president. What a loss.
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Well, considering the woman there is Agnes Something from Poughkeepsie,
I would have to say the chances were pretty remote. Nice try, though.
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05-01-2018, 10:48 AM
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#314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
More to that... Trump apparently is very upset that he can't negotiate bilaterally with EU members... apparently the concept of Trade Bloc is foreign to him.
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A trade bloc is not a foreign idea. It's just a very bad idea unless you like handing some of your sovereignty over to a bunch of corrupt incompetent douche bags.
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05-01-2018, 10:51 AM
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#315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
A trade bloc is not a foreign idea. It's just a very bad idea unless you like handing some of your sovereignty over to a bunch of corrupt incompetent douche bags.
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In principle I agree with your opinion on the issue. I wouldn't have wanted to join the EU. Especially if I was a northern and western European country.
That said... THIS IS EXACTLY WHY TRADE BLOCS FORM.
Just like on the playground where you have the big bully, in this case Trump, what do all the other little kids do? Team up to take him on.
Optics and MAGA aside this is now the second time in as many months Trump's blinked at the EU.
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