Army Mule

[Striker]

Originally Posted by GMB@BP

If Justify does not run as expected in the Derby I wont be shocked to see him in the Met Mile.

That would be an interesting placement to put a 3yo who would have only 4 races to his name, and just performed poorly in the Derby. If you are thinking that the 1 turn mile is more suitable for him, wouldn’t the Woody Stephens at 7f on the same day, against straight 3yos make more sense?

[GMB@BP]

Originally Posted by Striker

That would be an interesting placement to put a 3yo who would have only 4 races to his name, and just performed poorly in the Derby. If you are thinking that the 1 turn mile is more suitable for him, wouldn’t the Woody Stephens at 7f on the same day, against straight 3yos make more sense?

That race does nothing to enhance his value, and by not run well I mean like 3rd or 4th, not 15th.

[Parkview_Pirate]

Originally Posted by cj

More than 2 seconds faster than the Bay Shore...that is motoring.

Was not a fan of Army Mule, but I thought National Flag in the Bay Shore was visually stunning.

Since both winners came from off the pace, but NF was wide while AM was inside, does that make a difference?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever I hear a final time being relative, I think back to 1990 and Unbridled's Florida Derby. Like Carl Nafzger stated in response to Unbridled's slow time in the race, "time only counts when you're in jail."

And when Unbridled CRUSHED his opponents in the Kentucky Derby, it made Mr. Nafzger look pretty smart.

(Note - for those that that don't remember that performance, go out to Youtube

and look - it was a one horse race (begins at 45:50)

YouTube (Short URL)

So I won't argue that Army Mule ran huge, but let's see how he runs in future races.....

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by cj

It was a perfect trip, but would it have mattered? Who is out there to beat him?

I just thought of someone that could give him a tussle. Sharp Azetca is a very good miler when he's sharp. Supposedly he wasn't doing well recently and is being freshened. It's hard to know when he'll be back and whether he will be just as good, but it would be a pretty exciting matchup if they both came into a race peaking.

I'm not sure what they did with Mor Spirit after his bad race in the Mile.

[cj]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

I just thought of someone that could give him a tussle. Sharp Azetca is a very good miler when he's sharp. Supposedly he wasn't doing well recently and is being freshened. It's hard to know when he'll be back and whether he will be just as good, but it would be a pretty exciting matchup if they both came into a race peaking.

I'm not sure what they did with Mor Spirit after his bad race in the Mile.

Maybe. I'm not as big on him as some others, but he's popped a few big ones.

[cj]

Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate

Was not a fan of Army Mule, but I thought National Flag in the Bay Shore was visually stunning.

Since both winners came from off the pace, but NF was wide while AM was inside, does that make a difference?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that whenever I hear a final time being relative, I think back to 1990 and Unbridled's Florida Derby. Like Carl Nafzger stated in response to Unbridled's slow time in the race, "time only counts when you're in jail."

And when Unbridled CRUSHED his opponents in the Kentucky Derby, it made Mr. Nafzger look pretty smart.

(Note - for those that that don't remember that performance, go out to Youtube

and look - it was a one horse race (begins at 45:50)

https://youtu.be/wUGQV3Q5K50

So I won't argue that Army Mule ran huge, but let's see how he runs in future races.....

Sure, it makes a difference, but two seconds is a bunch. We're talking the difference between cheap claimers and stakes horses in a lot of cases.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by cj

Maybe. I'm not as big on him as some others, but he's popped a few big ones.

How about City of Light? They might meet in the Met.

[cj]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

How about City of Light? They might meet in the Met.

He was huge yesterday, G1s sprinting and routing now.

[GMB@BP]

I was going through my Del Mar trip notes and when he won so easy in his mdn i was like

"too good to believe from that barn"

well, it was that good, and the barn has done a great job with the horse. Really impressed with the race yesterday, he beat a pretty nice horse.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

How about City of Light? They might meet in the Met.

Getting excited for the Met. Could be quite a race with Mule, Light, Bisquits, Sharp Azteca to name a few. Hope they all get there.