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Old 07-18-2018, 11:30 PM   #1
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One of the smart guys...explain this to me

So the Russians...hacked the election and somehow influenced all these voters to vote for Trump. These highly gullible people, apparently. I mean, all it took were some Facebook ads, right? Plus whatever it was they hacked. That point was never made clear to anyone...Podesta emails...which by the way, were never denied by Podesta, so I guess they WERE his emails...so it's not like they released false info...but I digress.

Yet...the entire establishment media, which reported nothing but negative stories about Trump...the Hollywood Access tape which was released (like the Podesta emails, very real of course), the Republican never Trumpers...just the whole kitchen sink of negative publicity given to Trump by the media and those in positions of POWER that did not like Trump (including President Obama's highly negative comments about Trump)....

THAT HAD ZERO EFFECT? Because Trump still won.

How could the Russians, with their Facebook ads, beat out all of the above in influencing the American vote?

Really. HOW?

Are you guys weaving a FALSE NARRATIVE?

Nah...you wouldn't do that, right?

But there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL all that ocean of negativity spewed at Trump from the day he entered the race by our OWN MEDIA AND POLITICIANS, could EVER outweigh what little influence the Russians could possibly have with their Facebook ads and whatever other petty stuff they tried to pull off. And the Podesta emails of course.

Come on...YOU BUY THAT GARBAGE?

All these GULLIBLE voters bought into the RUSSIAN thing, and ignored their VERY OWN MEDIA and POLITICIANS and PRESIDENT telling them what an unfit douchebag this Trump guy is?

You must be joking.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:53 PM   #2
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Here is something you may not want to believe. But I do.

Dem emails stolen and released that showed the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders pissed off Bernie backers so much that they refused to vote for Clinton.

If that number is anywhere above 10% of Dem voters - it had to hurt Hillary a lot.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:55 PM   #3
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:57 PM   #4
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Here is something you may not want to believe. But I do.

Dem emails stolen and released that showed the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders pissed off Bernie backers so much that they refused to vote for Clinton.

If that number is anywhere above 10% of Dem voters - it had to hurt Hillary a lot.

Sorry Stinks, but PA clearly asked "Will one of the smart guys explain this to me"...…..That leaves you and me out...
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:03 AM   #5
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Sorry Stinks, but PA clearly asked "Will one of the smart guys explain this to me"...…..That leaves you and me out...
You are right, of course!
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Sorry Stinks, but PA clearly asked "Will one of the smart guys explain this to me"...…..That leaves you and me out...
I was in the process of explaining things to PA...but then I realized the wisdom of your post, and I abstained.
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I was in the process of explaining things to PA...but then I realized the wisdom of your post, and I abstained.

Of course my post was a typical Alt-right 100% disinformation post, as usual...
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:43 AM   #8
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So the GULLIBLE voters swayed by Facebook voted for Trump. But also the GULLIBLE voters... voted for Hillary and believe the Russian BS whole heartily.. and according to NJ Stinks those are or could of been Bernie voters or in other words Dem's. Therefore all Dem's are GULLIBLE.
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Here is something you may not want to believe. But I do.

Dem emails stolen and released that showed the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders pissed off Bernie backers so much that they refused to vote for Clinton.

If that number is anywhere above 10% of Dem voters - it had to hurt Hillary a lot.
But she won the popular vote by 3,000,000.
She lost states she failed to campaign in while Trump hammered them.

But you area saying, I thing, the TRUTH killed Hillary.
And you blame the RUSSIANS for that?
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Old 07-19-2018, 01:24 AM   #10
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Here is something you may not want to believe. But I do.

Dem emails stolen and released that showed the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders pissed off Bernie backers so much that they refused to vote for Clinton.

If that number is anywhere above 10% of Dem voters - it had to hurt Hillary a lot.
Hillary also got paid a lot of money to speak at Wall Street firms. How was she going to crack down on the excesses of the financial industry while at the same time earning large fees to make speeches to them?

The election was hers to lose. Same with Gore.

Bill Clinton set the table for them. All they had to do was show up for dinner.

After Gore couldn't beat W and Hillary lost to Obama the dems weren't smart enough to find better leaders. Right now, the smarter, more organized party is in power and that's the way it should be.
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Hillary also got paid a lot of money to speak at Wall Street firms. How was she going to crack down on the excesses of the financial industry while at the same time earning large fees to make speeches to them?

The election was hers to lose. Same with Gore.

Bill Clinton set the table for them. All they had to do was show up for dinner.

After Gore couldn't beat W and Hillary lost to Obama the dems weren't smart enough to find better leaders. Right now, the smarter, more organized party is in power and that's the way it should be.
The people didn't vote for the "smarter, more organized party". They voted for TRUMP, the "outsider".
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So the GULLIBLE voters swayed by Facebook voted for Trump. But also the GULLIBLE voters... voted for Hillary and believe the Russian BS whole heartily.. and according to NJ Stinks those are or could of been Bernie voters or in other words Dem's. Therefore all Dem's are GULLIBLE.
......the point was that Bernie bros not "not" support Hillary and that damaged her candidacy. logic F-
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:24 AM   #13
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most elections are rigged to certain extents. the ones that i know of that were stolen were Nixon-Kennedy, and Gore-Bush. both elections came down to single states, Nixon in Illinois and Gore in Florida. Triump won 5 key states by wider margins than the other 2 examples.
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Here is something you may not want to believe. But I do.

Dem emails stolen and released that showed the DNC favored Clinton over Sanders pissed off Bernie backers so much that they refused to vote for Clinton.

If that number is anywhere above 10% of Dem voters - it had to hurt Hillary a lot.

So someone exposed an obvious truth? Hillary had an overwhelming majority of the super delegates. It was pretty obvious who the DNC wanted to anyone with a lick of common sense. That would be like someone exposing e-mail where Trump admitted to comb overs and fake tanning.
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Here is the solution: Nominate Hillary and we can have a DO OVER. Bernie supporters will still stay in mom and dad's basement. Liberals do not understand the appeal of Populism. Have the socialists lost the proletariat?
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